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bespoke radio for the masses headline

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edition july 8 1947

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the army air forces has announced that a

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flying disc has been found and is now in

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the possession of the army if the game

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is rigged change the game

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game changer

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i occasionally think how quickly

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our differences worldwide

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would vanish

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if we were facing an alien threat from

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this is fade to black with your host

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jimmy church on the game changer radio

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i need your help to get to the year

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you are listening to fate to black with

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jimmy church on the game changer network

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bespoke radio

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how you doing today's tuesday april 12

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102 days into the new year only 263 days

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left it's going to be a great show let's

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do this

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we are live from a bunker somewhere in

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the middle of nowhere

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but it is beautiful in here

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i would like to welcome everybody

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listening all around the world all

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across the united states hither and

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tether to and fro back and forth up and

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down east and west north and south far

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and near this is fade to block

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for kjcr the game changer and annex

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networks racehobbs

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i'm your host jimmy church what is

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cracking everybody how you doing

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sent to me

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is the very best day for manifestation

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that we will experience

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thank you for that laura she's the best

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man i got to get laura back on the show

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i haven't seen laura

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today is the very best day for

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manifestation that we will experience in

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this lifetime that's heavy

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and it certainly makes a lot of sense

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because tonight we have very special

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paul heineck is here paul heineck is

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and there is a connection

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there is and tonight we're going to talk

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about all of that with paul

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we're going to be talking about

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exoplanets tomorrow night exoplanets and

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omumu is no longer the first

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linda moulton howe is back with us for a

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full night of antarctica spartan 1

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thursday so no fader night again this

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week no open lines again this week

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deal with it you'll be all right

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you will

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manifest you see you you didn't know

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that you could manifest today anything

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see you had the power you had the power

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to do that and i love this show i love

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did you see the picture of pegasus

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that i posted on facebook pegasus

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stopped by my home on saturday night for

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a visit unbelievable crystal skull

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of carolyn ford of course lisa frith

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that skull to and from the car but

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absolutely wonderful beautiful and you

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can get your next crystal skull from

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carolyn ford over at einstein the

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crystalskull.com just click on the

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on the banners over at

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jimmychurchradio.com take you straight

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there you can look

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at carolyn's collection and get your

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first or next crystal skull today use

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the promo code jimmy 10 off of your

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order coming up next month and uh one

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month from tomorrow

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i'll be speaking at the x conference

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this is going down for two days may 13th

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and then after i'm done there will be a

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investigation from 9pm until midnight

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this is an online event

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and for tickets and info and everything

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else go to the

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dot xnetwork.com all right and the links

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are over at jimmychurchradio.com

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and i also have it in social media i'm

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very excited that i am hosting

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disclosure fest again this year the mass

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meditation initiative which is going

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2022 from 10 a.m to 10 p.m pacific time

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that is a one-day event saturday one day

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only at the los angeles state historic

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park in downtown los angeles california

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i'm hosting the event and we have music

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dwellers poor on ghee many other musical

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12 stages we have workshops and yoga and

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l.a workshops with billy carson adam

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david palmer i wonder if david knows

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about how special today

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and the banners are over at

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everybody that i'll be in egypt with

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billy carson this october

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space is very very limited i want you to

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go to forbidden knowledge.com

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right now for the complete schedule and

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information that is forbidden

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knowledge.com i'm gonna have billy on

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on the show next week too as well did i

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and never really give it away

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but uh yeah next week is going to be

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amazing you can follow me on twitter at

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and uh linda has a blank check to take

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over fader night anytime

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that's it you guys have figured that out

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blocked out on her calendar so she does

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her thing that's it that leaves thursday

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and that's all right with me

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yeah but uh

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cassandra's on top of her game so anyway

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when you go to hashtag f2b where i just

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check to take over fader night anytime

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that happens in the sandbox hashtag

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f2b and you can check out everybody's

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breaking news

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gilbert godfried one of the funniest

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people on the planet seriously has left

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this earth after a long illness

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his family announced all of this earlier

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today he was 67 years old

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oh man all right rest in peace gilbert

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and there you go

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the bernard in delhi

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bernstein i'm not making this up comet

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identified just last year in 2021

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is now officially

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the biggest comet ever observed

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the new record reported on the pre-print

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website archive and is now accepted for

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publication in the journal astronomy and

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astrophysics letters

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bumps the hail bop comet from the top

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spot the hail bop was discovered in 1995

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and became visible to the naked eye in

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it was about 46 miles across

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has now been calculated to be about 85

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almost twice as big as hellbop the comet

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is currently winging its way towards the

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interior of the solar system

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it will get closest to earth in 2031

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it will remain just outside saturn's

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incredible we'll see this thing in 2031

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this is crazy okay now i need you to

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visualize

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sling right uh

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what was it david and goliath right

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right a sling

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right

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maybe a discus thrower when he's

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spinning around

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and then throws to the discus

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nasa so put that in your mind

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nasa

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has signed up to test

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spin launch's extraordinary kinetic

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space launch technology which

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accelerates a launch vehicle to

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hypersonic speeds

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using an electronic

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centrifuge arm

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and then let it go

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hurling it skyward like like a discus

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the idea behind spin launch is as

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staggering as the company's name and it

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is entirely appropriate the idea of

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winding up and throwing satellites most

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of the way into orbit just boggles the

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mind boggles mine but in initial testing

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this company's kinetic launch system

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which looks externally like a like a

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turbocharger it's round with a tube on

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the side that sticks out

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as uh it's shown promise as an

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environmentally friendly and potentially

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cost effective replacement

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for the first stage rocket launches i've

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seen the animation

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i've seen this thing work and it is

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crazy town you need to check it out

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well announced today netflix

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has introduced

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introduced the

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short ass movies

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category after snl's pete davidson joked

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that there was a lack of films that ran

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less than an

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hour and 40 minutes

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netflix has confirmed and i've seen it

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i've actually been there and clicked on

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it netflix confirmed short ass movies

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confirmed that it was available on a

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streaming platform but declined to

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answer a question about how long it

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would remain

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as a category

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now

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anything under an hour and 40 minutes is

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what i call the episode of a tv series

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me personally

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i like

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long ass movies

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i do

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all right let's get to show cracking

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happy birthday to today

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claire danes

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yeah

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is 43 years old

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star of homeland

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homeland had a good ending uh to the

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series the series finale i guess it was

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pretty good but i kind of miss it ed

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o'neill today is 76 that's right married

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with children at bundy and andy garcia

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today is 66 star of a long ass movie

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godfather three

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david letterman is 75

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herbie hancock

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today are you ready

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herbie hancock today

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is 82.

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steppenwolf's john k is 78 and guitarist

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pat travers

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today

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is 68 years old our dead guy's birthday

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today is i need a moment of silence

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please

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david cassidy

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1950 to 2017. david of course

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was an actor he was a singer songwriter

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and a guitarist

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he was keith partridge the son of

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shirley partridge played by his

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stepmother shirley jones in the

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partridge family

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this role

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catapulted david to the king teen idol

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of the known universe

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david died of liver failure on november

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21 2017 at the age of 67 and according

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to his daughter katie cassidy his final

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words were quote

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so much wasted time

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end quote

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happy birthday david on this day in

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history

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1954

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speaking of hellbop

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and the comets right

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bill haley and his comments

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record rock around the clock

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making rock and roll

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official see and all of this is

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synchronicity write the announcement of

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the largest comment ever found right and

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and

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a minute it's all synchronicity

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bill haley think about that fader fact

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turkeys

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thanksgiving

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turkeys as in the country

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turkey's gate to hell

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a temple with a stone doorway leading to

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a small cave-like grotto

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emits deadly volcanic

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co2 that can kill an animal

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within minutes

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priests

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came out alive

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because their heads were above the co2

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layer

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that's right

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i'm just going to leave that right there

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just think it's a miracle

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he's got he's he's got the power of god

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inside of him

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anything that priest would say when he

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comes out of there alive

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think about that

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and it was only because

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they were tall

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all right let me hit this river moon

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tonight very special guest paul heineck

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is here

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we're going to be talking about bitcoin

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and ufos and there is a connection there

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are many connections we're going to do

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all of that tonight tomorrow night isaac

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arthur joins us we're going to be

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talking about exoplanets and e.t

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and which is now the second interstellar

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visitor we'll be talking about all of

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that tomorrow night and then thursday

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linda moulton howe is with us for a full

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night of antarctica spartan 1 spartan 2

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and beyond that will be thursday night

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no fader night or open lines this week

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all right

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river moon coffee river moon wellness

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fade the black blend

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last night we did our

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ama semi-annual ama last night one of

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the questions how do i like my coffee

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well i like my coffee doc

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i'm just gonna say this

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today i gotta move on i've got other

446
00:23:24,710 --> 00:23:22,870
and you can stop following me on twitter

447
00:23:26,789 --> 00:23:24,720
you can unsubscribe to this channel

448
00:23:27,590 --> 00:23:26,799
after what i'm about to say but that's

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fine

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but today

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i tried

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oat milk as a creamer in my

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coffee

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it tasted like

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dirt

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in my coffee

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i will never do that again

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my doctor could go

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00:24:04,710 --> 00:24:01,520
dude cream half and half

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00:24:07,350 --> 00:24:04,720
is gonna shorten your life like you're

461
00:24:09,350 --> 00:24:07,360
gonna die next week well

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i'm gonna die

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oat milk oh man i can't speak about soy

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i've never done it

465
00:24:27,909 --> 00:24:24,400
but i've officially tried oat

466
00:24:32,950 --> 00:24:30,950
whoever's doing that and has convinced

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themselves

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00:24:38,470 --> 00:24:36,080
you know rewiring their brain

469
00:24:40,149 --> 00:24:38,480
that that is okay all right all right

470
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you do your own thing

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okay

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00:24:51,669 --> 00:24:44,400
um because

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eleven eleven

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it seems that

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i checked my phone

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twice a day for the time

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twice

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a quick glance

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and each time that i shift my eyes

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towards the end of my right arm

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there it is

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11 11.

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over the last couple of weeks i took a

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mental note

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seriously i said jimmy

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yeah i don't i don't have to look at my

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phone for the time

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i have clocks in every room i have

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watches

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i have no problems anywhere in fact

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like most of you

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there are three clocks in my kitchen

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the stove the microwave the coffee

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machine all are synced up with the same

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time

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there's a clock large digital clock

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underneath my tv in the family room

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staring at me

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in the bunker i've got an atomic clock

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and it's bright red

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right in front of me

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so yeah i know what time it is

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but when i take the opportunity to look

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at my phone

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twice a day

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for the time

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it's always eleven eleven

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why is that

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sure

510
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we can easily jump to some spiritual

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meaning you know ponder the significance

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of the numbers the positive vibes and i

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get that

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most of you will say that the universe

515
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is telling me something you know saying

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hello it's winking and i get that too

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it's gotten to the point that when it

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happens

519
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like it did earlier today

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i just laugh

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it's truly crazy and it's real

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i've officially

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taken note of it

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but here's the deal

525
00:26:59,990 --> 00:26:57,440
sure it may be the consciousness of the

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00:27:02,310 --> 00:27:00,000
connected universe which is cool

527
00:27:03,909 --> 00:27:02,320
but something else is probably going on

528
00:27:04,830 --> 00:27:03,919
that is much deeper

529
00:27:07,990 --> 00:27:04,840
and that

530
00:27:10,870 --> 00:27:08,000
is it's probably

531
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our amazing brains at work

532
00:27:17,029 --> 00:27:11,840
now

533
00:27:19,669 --> 00:27:17,039
but i think that i've thought about and

534
00:27:22,389 --> 00:27:19,679
spoken about this enough over the years

535
00:27:25,190 --> 00:27:22,399
that my brain now knows

536
00:27:29,510 --> 00:27:25,200
that this is something that i enjoy

537
00:27:33,110 --> 00:27:29,520
11-11 it brings me happiness

538
00:27:36,149 --> 00:27:33,120
and my brain has adjusted itself

539
00:27:37,110 --> 00:27:36,159
my brain is totally synced up with my

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00:27:41,990 --> 00:27:37,120
clock

541
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and it has even taken into account

542
00:27:46,310 --> 00:27:44,640
daylight savings time

543
00:27:49,830 --> 00:27:46,320
seriously

544
00:27:53,350 --> 00:27:49,840
my brain knows to the second

545
00:27:55,510 --> 00:27:53,360
when to have me look at my cell phone

546
00:27:58,870 --> 00:27:55,520
just to make me happy

547
00:28:01,029 --> 00:27:58,880
to make me smile

548
00:28:03,669 --> 00:28:01,039
there is no other rational explanation

549
00:28:06,230 --> 00:28:03,679
for this it's not consciousness at work

550
00:28:09,750 --> 00:28:06,240
it's our amazing brains

551
00:28:12,470 --> 00:28:09,760
endorphins the happiness hormones and

552
00:28:14,630 --> 00:28:12,480
specifically dopamine which is produced

553
00:28:16,389 --> 00:28:14,640
when we feel satisfied resulting in

554
00:28:17,990 --> 00:28:16,399
feeling happy excited you know

555
00:28:21,269 --> 00:28:18,000
stimulated

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00:28:24,230 --> 00:28:21,279
is fired off twice a day

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00:28:27,830 --> 00:28:24,240
seriously like clockwork

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00:28:28,870 --> 00:28:27,840
twice a day at 11 11. our brains my

559
00:28:31,430 --> 00:28:28,880
brain

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00:28:34,870 --> 00:28:31,440
100 knows this

561
00:28:38,389 --> 00:28:34,880
it can get a guaranteed happy fix every

562
00:28:40,389 --> 00:28:38,399
12 hours and it works every time

563
00:28:42,470 --> 00:28:40,399
no pun intended

564
00:28:45,830 --> 00:28:42,480
so tonight after the show

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00:28:47,909 --> 00:28:45,840
i'll edit i'll upload i'll download then

566
00:28:50,070 --> 00:28:47,919
i'll shut down the studio

567
00:28:53,190 --> 00:28:50,080
i'll cook some dinner

568
00:28:56,310 --> 00:28:53,200
i'll sit down turn on the tv and watch

569
00:29:00,070 --> 00:28:56,320
whatever i'll eat i'll kick back i'll

570
00:29:03,190 --> 00:29:00,080
take a sip of a cool refreshing liquid

571
00:29:04,789 --> 00:29:03,200
i'll think about dessert and in that

572
00:29:08,149 --> 00:29:04,799
blissful moment

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00:29:11,350 --> 00:29:08,159
i'll reach down pick up my phone

574
00:29:14,870 --> 00:29:11,360
and see eleven eleven

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00:29:17,830 --> 00:29:14,880
my brain fires off some tasty chemicals

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00:29:21,669 --> 00:29:17,840
and i'm in my happy place

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00:29:25,669 --> 00:29:21,679
in 12 more hours i get to do it again

578
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jimmy church

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tonight

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on this program i'm going to get to my

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happy place with paul heineck because

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he's here we're going to be talking

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about

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bitcoin

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and ufos and i know what you're thinking

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is there a connection

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is there yes

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we'll find out that there are a list

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of connections we will go through all of

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that tonight with paul tomorrow night

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isaac arthur's joining us we're going to

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omua muah

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you're listening to jimmy

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what's up i'm chris what up this is

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all right welcome back fade to black i

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am your host jimmy church tonight paul

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00:35:06,790 --> 00:35:05,040
heineck is with us tomorrow night isaac

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arthur

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physicist

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we're going to be talking about

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exoplanets in e.t and thursday night

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linda molten howe is with us antarctica

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tonight

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it's bitcoin and ufos what is the

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connection

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there is one

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or two or three

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00:35:29,349 --> 00:35:26,960
tonight you're gonna find out paul has

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00:35:31,349 --> 00:35:29,359
worked in tech and entertainment and is

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00:35:33,109 --> 00:35:31,359
currently a business consultant he is

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also a former ad

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00:35:37,349 --> 00:35:35,760
former adjunct professor of pepperdine i

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thought you were still

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00:35:43,030 --> 00:35:41,680
a professor at pepperdine i'm confused

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00:35:45,109 --> 00:35:43,040
about that

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00:35:47,270 --> 00:35:45,119
but uh of course he was a consultant on

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00:35:49,270 --> 00:35:47,280
history channel series uh project blue

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00:35:52,950 --> 00:35:49,280
book based on a real project to

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00:35:55,990 --> 00:35:52,960
investigate ufos from 1952 to 1969

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00:35:58,069 --> 00:35:56,000
of course paul is the son of dr j allen

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heineck an astronomer who worked with

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00:36:03,990 --> 00:36:00,160
the united states air force investigated

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00:36:06,950 --> 00:36:04,000
ufo cases from 1948 till the end of blue

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00:36:08,630 --> 00:36:06,960
book in 1969.

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00:36:10,230 --> 00:36:08,640
dr j alan heineck began his

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00:36:12,310 --> 00:36:10,240
investigation with the united states air

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00:36:13,670 --> 00:36:12,320
force as a skeptic but by the time blue

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book ended

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00:36:17,430 --> 00:36:15,359
i think he was convinced that we were

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being visited by e.t

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00:36:23,349 --> 00:36:19,920
and i've got a link up for the heineken

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ufo report on amazon it's right there

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and you can go and check that out i

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00:36:28,310 --> 00:36:26,000
would like to welcome back to fade to

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black the one and only paul heineck paul

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00:36:33,589 --> 00:36:30,560
good evening my man how you doing

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00:36:36,069 --> 00:36:33,599
mr church happy manifestation day yeah

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00:36:38,150 --> 00:36:36,079
you caught that and and you know what i

737
00:36:42,069 --> 00:36:38,160
manifested earlier

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00:36:43,990 --> 00:36:42,079
i wanted a black cat to walk in front of

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00:36:46,390 --> 00:36:44,000
me

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00:36:48,630 --> 00:36:46,400
you got it i got i have my cat in black

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00:36:49,910 --> 00:36:48,640
here that is absolutely what's your

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00:36:52,520 --> 00:36:49,920
cat's name

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00:36:56,230 --> 00:36:52,530
sadie sadie and

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00:36:58,150 --> 00:36:56,240
[Laughter]

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00:37:00,630 --> 00:36:58,160
sadie knows her name

746
00:37:04,150 --> 00:37:00,640
yes she does that was hilarious she

747
00:37:07,670 --> 00:37:05,750
that was incredible okay i'm gonna let

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00:37:10,710 --> 00:37:07,680
that go that was too weird that was too

749
00:37:13,270 --> 00:37:10,720
weird hey uh paul as um

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as you know manifesting and i'm glad

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00:37:17,829 --> 00:37:15,920
that you brought that up because i like

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00:37:20,950 --> 00:37:17,839
to manifest with you

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00:37:23,270 --> 00:37:20,960
and but but it's not what you may think

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00:37:26,790 --> 00:37:23,280
it i believe

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00:37:29,430 --> 00:37:26,800
that if you want to change your life you

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00:37:32,470 --> 00:37:29,440
need to hang out with positive people

757
00:37:35,589 --> 00:37:32,480
who are winners that want to move

758
00:37:37,270 --> 00:37:35,599
forward that are great to be around

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00:37:40,390 --> 00:37:37,280
and and that's what you do if you want

760
00:37:42,470 --> 00:37:40,400
to manifest that's step number one

761
00:37:44,550 --> 00:37:42,480
you are one of those people

762
00:37:46,710 --> 00:37:44,560
people should hang out with you

763
00:37:48,870 --> 00:37:46,720
because you glow

764
00:37:51,190 --> 00:37:48,880
do you agree with that and and part of

765
00:37:52,150 --> 00:37:51,200
your personality and who you are is that

766
00:37:54,790 --> 00:37:52,160
because

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00:37:57,349 --> 00:37:54,800
of your friends and your network and and

768
00:37:59,190 --> 00:37:57,359
what is around you

769
00:38:01,910 --> 00:37:59,200
well thank you you say the sweetest

770
00:38:04,630 --> 00:38:01,920
things uh if i glow it's probably

771
00:38:07,349 --> 00:38:04,640
because my family has a summer cabin

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00:38:09,750 --> 00:38:07,359
near the uranium capital of the world in

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ontario

774
00:38:12,470 --> 00:38:11,359
and that's exactly what i'm talking

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00:38:13,829 --> 00:38:12,480
about

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00:38:18,069 --> 00:38:13,839
right there

777
00:38:20,310 --> 00:38:18,079
everything you can to keep from laughing

778
00:38:22,470 --> 00:38:20,320
you've got the you've got the serious

779
00:38:25,510 --> 00:38:22,480
face on but that's exactly what i'm

780
00:38:27,750 --> 00:38:25,520
talking about and and i think that that

781
00:38:29,510 --> 00:38:27,760
is is very important

782
00:38:31,430 --> 00:38:29,520
and and

783
00:38:33,109 --> 00:38:31,440
if you surround yourself with

784
00:38:37,349 --> 00:38:33,119
positiveness

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00:38:40,790 --> 00:38:37,359
you're going to get that back right

786
00:38:42,950 --> 00:38:40,800
you know you hope so um

787
00:38:44,870 --> 00:38:42,960
karma's a pretty funny thing and it

788
00:38:47,829 --> 00:38:44,880
doesn't always operate on the time frame

789
00:38:49,109 --> 00:38:47,839
that you can ascribe immediate causality

790
00:38:52,230 --> 00:38:49,119
to so

791
00:38:54,630 --> 00:38:52,240
yeah let's just say sure you betcha now

792
00:38:58,230 --> 00:38:54,640
um in your world we're gonna be talking

793
00:39:02,310 --> 00:38:58,240
about uh bitcoin and and ufos tonight

794
00:39:04,310 --> 00:39:02,320
um i want your opinion on something

795
00:39:07,430 --> 00:39:04,320
are you

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00:39:10,230 --> 00:39:07,440
a determinist

797
00:39:13,349 --> 00:39:10,240
or are you on the freewill side of the

798
00:39:18,150 --> 00:39:15,190
that's a good question and first please

799
00:39:21,670 --> 00:39:18,160
let me dispel your confusion yes i am

800
00:39:23,589 --> 00:39:21,680
still a professor at pepperdine um

801
00:39:25,190 --> 00:39:23,599
in terms of free will

802
00:39:27,190 --> 00:39:25,200
you know i

803
00:39:29,589 --> 00:39:27,200
by and large believe in free will but

804
00:39:32,150 --> 00:39:29,599
i'm working on a paper

805
00:39:34,630 --> 00:39:32,160
and the working title is

806
00:39:36,630 --> 00:39:34,640
so you're afraid the computers will take

807
00:39:38,470 --> 00:39:36,640
over

808
00:39:39,510 --> 00:39:38,480
don't worry they won't

809
00:39:41,270 --> 00:39:39,520
and

810
00:39:43,510 --> 00:39:41,280
by the way you never had free will to

811
00:39:46,870 --> 00:39:43,520
begin with right

812
00:39:48,390 --> 00:39:46,880
and and can you okay can you mix the two

813
00:39:50,470 --> 00:39:48,400
worlds

814
00:39:52,390 --> 00:39:50,480
yeah so in terms and you know we've

815
00:39:54,150 --> 00:39:52,400
talked before about ai and my feeling

816
00:39:57,190 --> 00:39:54,160
that people get

817
00:39:58,470 --> 00:39:57,200
you know all hung up and afraid about

818
00:40:01,109 --> 00:39:58,480
a potential

819
00:40:02,630 --> 00:40:01,119
existential extinction event when the

820
00:40:05,430 --> 00:40:02,640
computers take over

821
00:40:07,910 --> 00:40:05,440
i'm far less concerned about the future

822
00:40:11,190 --> 00:40:07,920
of artificial intelligence than i am

823
00:40:13,430 --> 00:40:11,200
about the present of human stupidity we

824
00:40:14,950 --> 00:40:13,440
might not even make it until the matrix

825
00:40:17,990 --> 00:40:14,960
we're crying out loud

826
00:40:18,950 --> 00:40:18,000
now as for free will it's an interesting

827
00:40:21,190 --> 00:40:18,960
so i don't

828
00:40:22,710 --> 00:40:21,200
but i'm on the ray kurzweil side that i

829
00:40:24,550 --> 00:40:22,720
don't think that

830
00:40:26,710 --> 00:40:24,560
when computers wake up and i think it's

831
00:40:28,630 --> 00:40:26,720
actually more of us with increasing

832
00:40:31,030 --> 00:40:28,640
machine capabilities because the

833
00:40:32,710 --> 00:40:31,040
consciousness is the hard part we will

834
00:40:34,630 --> 00:40:32,720
sort of merge with them to the extent

835
00:40:37,750 --> 00:40:34,640
that we want to so i don't view it as an

836
00:40:39,829 --> 00:40:37,760
extinction event but as for free will

837
00:40:41,589 --> 00:40:39,839
i'm not that much of a determinist or

838
00:40:44,550 --> 00:40:41,599
fatalist but there are a couple things

839
00:40:46,470 --> 00:40:44,560
that sort of erode what i think are our

840
00:40:49,349 --> 00:40:46,480
cherished ideas especially in the west

841
00:40:51,589 --> 00:40:49,359
of like individual freedom right one is

842
00:40:52,790 --> 00:40:51,599
the increasing awareness

843
00:40:55,670 --> 00:40:52,800
of the

844
00:40:57,430 --> 00:40:55,680
influence of our microbiome on our

845
00:40:58,710 --> 00:40:57,440
behaviors

846
00:41:00,550 --> 00:40:58,720
there are reports coming out all the

847
00:41:02,790 --> 00:41:00,560
time about how

848
00:41:05,270 --> 00:41:02,800
strong that impact is

849
00:41:07,430 --> 00:41:05,280
and the other one is there's a

850
00:41:09,910 --> 00:41:07,440
a tract written by sam harris the

851
00:41:11,589 --> 00:41:09,920
brilliant neuroscientist from ucla

852
00:41:13,430 --> 00:41:11,599
called free will

853
00:41:14,550 --> 00:41:13,440
and he talks about various experiments

854
00:41:16,470 --> 00:41:14,560
such as

855
00:41:19,589 --> 00:41:16,480
one that's been replicated several times

856
00:41:21,670 --> 00:41:19,599
where you have an ekg and the

857
00:41:23,430 --> 00:41:21,680
the subject is asked to press the blue

858
00:41:26,870 --> 00:41:23,440
button or the red button

859
00:41:29,190 --> 00:41:26,880
the ekg picks up the chemical signal of

860
00:41:31,829 --> 00:41:29,200
which button they're going to press

861
00:41:32,870 --> 00:41:31,839
before the person is consciously aware

862
00:41:34,470 --> 00:41:32,880
that's right

863
00:41:36,870 --> 00:41:34,480
and then consciousness is sort of

864
00:41:39,109 --> 00:41:36,880
brought in as a plus one at the last

865
00:41:41,190 --> 00:41:39,119
second to feel like it's part of it but

866
00:41:43,990 --> 00:41:41,200
may not have had agency

867
00:41:46,710 --> 00:41:44,000
so what that indicates is that

868
00:41:48,550 --> 00:41:46,720
it's not so much our consciousness

869
00:41:50,950 --> 00:41:48,560
determining things but there is not only

870
00:41:53,030 --> 00:41:50,960
the microbiome but a sort of a chemical

871
00:41:55,270 --> 00:41:53,040
basis for our behaviors

872
00:41:59,589 --> 00:41:55,280
the other thing that sam harris says is

873
00:42:02,550 --> 00:41:59,599
try to predict your next thought

874
00:42:05,270 --> 00:42:02,560
you you can't it just comes to you now i

875
00:42:06,550 --> 00:42:05,280
think that these thoughts come from a

876
00:42:09,510 --> 00:42:06,560
pool

877
00:42:11,349 --> 00:42:09,520
influenced by your prior actions so i

878
00:42:14,069 --> 00:42:11,359
don't think that we all just one big

879
00:42:16,470 --> 00:42:14,079
chemical bacterial bag that has no

880
00:42:19,270 --> 00:42:16,480
choice over our thing over our actions

881
00:42:21,270 --> 00:42:19,280
but it's not quite as a hundred percent

882
00:42:23,190 --> 00:42:21,280
free as i think we might like to believe

883
00:42:26,710 --> 00:42:23,200
and that's where i stand and then and

884
00:42:27,589 --> 00:42:26,720
then let's go in another direction same

885
00:42:31,510 --> 00:42:27,599
thought

886
00:42:33,270 --> 00:42:31,520
right and probably the same uh answer

887
00:42:34,309 --> 00:42:33,280
which is this

888
00:42:37,190 --> 00:42:34,319
if

889
00:42:41,109 --> 00:42:37,200
we believe in predicting the future

890
00:42:43,190 --> 00:42:41,119
or time travel or even deja vu

891
00:42:46,150 --> 00:42:43,200
right

892
00:42:47,750 --> 00:42:46,160
there is no free will involved

893
00:42:50,390 --> 00:42:47,760
you can't

894
00:42:52,470 --> 00:42:50,400
change the future

895
00:42:54,069 --> 00:42:52,480
right if it's if somebody's going to say

896
00:42:55,589 --> 00:42:54,079
you're going to do this and you're going

897
00:42:58,230 --> 00:42:55,599
to do this and

898
00:42:59,510 --> 00:42:58,240
so what i don't have free will not to do

899
00:43:03,030 --> 00:42:59,520
that now

900
00:43:04,710 --> 00:43:03,040
so and then at the same time

901
00:43:07,190 --> 00:43:04,720
when somebody suggests something like

902
00:43:08,950 --> 00:43:07,200
that they do believe in free will and

903
00:43:10,870 --> 00:43:08,960
but they're not catching

904
00:43:12,630 --> 00:43:10,880
their thought process they're not

905
00:43:14,550 --> 00:43:12,640
catching the words that are coming out

906
00:43:15,829 --> 00:43:14,560
of their mouth that you can't have it

907
00:43:17,990 --> 00:43:15,839
both ways

908
00:43:22,630 --> 00:43:18,000
right and and so

909
00:43:23,990 --> 00:43:22,640
uh it's it's uh it's a paradox isn't it

910
00:43:26,550 --> 00:43:24,000
yeah that's a lot of big words i don't

911
00:43:29,910 --> 00:43:26,560
know um but it just gets really kind of

912
00:43:32,069 --> 00:43:29,920
convoluted and usher-like i it just it

913
00:43:34,790 --> 00:43:32,079
just hurts my brain to think about that

914
00:43:37,589 --> 00:43:34,800
yeah yeah exactly so do we have free

915
00:43:40,230 --> 00:43:37,599
will and then there's another sam harris

916
00:43:41,349 --> 00:43:40,240
uh i love talking about sam because he's

917
00:43:44,550 --> 00:43:41,359
somebody that

918
00:43:47,109 --> 00:43:44,560
i agree with most of the time and then

919
00:43:49,990 --> 00:43:47,119
it's that other 25 i just want to grab

920
00:43:53,990 --> 00:43:50,000
him by the throat and shake him right so

921
00:43:55,430 --> 00:43:54,000
but uh but there's one thing that i find

922
00:43:56,710 --> 00:43:55,440
interesting

923
00:43:59,109 --> 00:43:56,720
that

924
00:44:00,630 --> 00:43:59,119
chemicals particles

925
00:44:03,430 --> 00:44:00,640
math

926
00:44:05,589 --> 00:44:03,440
are going to combine

927
00:44:09,510 --> 00:44:05,599
at a moment in time

928
00:44:11,910 --> 00:44:09,520
and will continue to do that

929
00:44:14,309 --> 00:44:11,920
and you can't interfere with it and if

930
00:44:15,670 --> 00:44:14,319
we take that to from the micro to the

931
00:44:16,550 --> 00:44:15,680
macro

932
00:44:19,270 --> 00:44:16,560
well

933
00:44:21,190 --> 00:44:19,280
everything is going to happen in the way

934
00:44:24,790 --> 00:44:21,200
that it is going to happen because of

935
00:44:26,309 --> 00:44:24,800
math and is it is it like getting into

936
00:44:29,349 --> 00:44:26,319
some type of

937
00:44:31,270 --> 00:44:29,359
determined viewpoint

938
00:44:32,309 --> 00:44:31,280
um almost

939
00:44:34,390 --> 00:44:32,319
in that

940
00:44:35,430 --> 00:44:34,400
the universe built itself the way that

941
00:44:38,230 --> 00:44:35,440
it did

942
00:44:40,870 --> 00:44:38,240
and continues to evolve

943
00:44:43,270 --> 00:44:40,880
mathematically and because of chemistry

944
00:44:45,870 --> 00:44:43,280
so does that mean that our lives are

945
00:44:48,309 --> 00:44:45,880
part of that chemistry and part of that

946
00:44:50,630 --> 00:44:48,319
electromagnetism and gravity that

947
00:44:53,349 --> 00:44:50,640
everything is inevitable that you can't

948
00:44:55,990 --> 00:44:53,359
really have free will so i don't know

949
00:44:57,750 --> 00:44:56,000
and and even that was determined right

950
00:45:00,230 --> 00:44:57,760
everything that i just said and i tried

951
00:45:01,430 --> 00:45:00,240
not to say it i tried to stop myself and

952
00:45:02,470 --> 00:45:01,440
i couldn't

953
00:45:06,069 --> 00:45:02,480
well

954
00:45:09,109 --> 00:45:06,079
being is how as likely as not we're all

955
00:45:11,349 --> 00:45:09,119
non-player characters in a simulation

956
00:45:13,349 --> 00:45:11,359
anyways let's not get all bent out of

957
00:45:14,550 --> 00:45:13,359
shape about losing our precious notion

958
00:45:15,990 --> 00:45:14,560
of free will

959
00:45:17,670 --> 00:45:16,000
now if

960
00:45:19,190 --> 00:45:17,680
let's let's take it one step further and

961
00:45:20,630 --> 00:45:19,200
then we're going to get to a bitcoin and

962
00:45:24,870 --> 00:45:20,640
ufos

963
00:45:27,589 --> 00:45:24,880
if we are in a simulation

964
00:45:29,430 --> 00:45:27,599
which is something that is very possible

965
00:45:30,790 --> 00:45:29,440
right and we're in a ones and zeros

966
00:45:32,870 --> 00:45:30,800
environment

967
00:45:34,630 --> 00:45:32,880
when we

968
00:45:40,309 --> 00:45:34,640
dream

969
00:45:42,870 --> 00:45:40,319
non-player characters our npcs

970
00:45:44,550 --> 00:45:42,880
are now dreaming in the simulation and

971
00:45:46,950 --> 00:45:44,560
take it a step further

972
00:45:50,550 --> 00:45:46,960
when we go into

973
00:45:52,230 --> 00:45:50,560
an ar augmented reality with

974
00:45:54,790 --> 00:45:52,240
with goggles on

975
00:45:57,190 --> 00:45:54,800
now we're in a simulation inside of a

976
00:45:59,030 --> 00:45:57,200
simulation

977
00:46:02,309 --> 00:45:59,040
it doesn't make any sense and it gets a

978
00:46:05,750 --> 00:46:03,910
okay

979
00:46:07,190 --> 00:46:05,760
right

980
00:46:08,950 --> 00:46:07,200
yeah i mean

981
00:46:12,710 --> 00:46:08,960
it's

982
00:46:15,030 --> 00:46:12,720
universe or what's past the edge of the

983
00:46:17,589 --> 00:46:15,040
south pole in the pizza world of the

984
00:46:20,870 --> 00:46:17,599
flat earthers right yes

985
00:46:23,910 --> 00:46:20,880
yes i don't know yeah and it keeps going

986
00:46:26,630 --> 00:46:23,920
it does it just keeps going yeah so then

987
00:46:29,430 --> 00:46:26,640
then you could upload your consciousness

988
00:46:31,990 --> 00:46:29,440
onto a hard drive in a simulated

989
00:46:33,030 --> 00:46:32,000
universe and then there on the hard

990
00:46:35,270 --> 00:46:33,040
drive

991
00:46:37,430 --> 00:46:35,280
you play a video game

992
00:46:39,829 --> 00:46:37,440
that is simulated and it just keeps

993
00:46:42,390 --> 00:46:39,839
going it keeps going and going and you

994
00:46:43,829 --> 00:46:42,400
know where where would it stop i like

995
00:46:46,630 --> 00:46:43,839
that kind of morning

996
00:46:48,550 --> 00:46:46,640
zoo dj voice you you took on there

997
00:46:50,710 --> 00:46:48,560
you know i think in the real world we'll

998
00:46:52,550 --> 00:46:50,720
be able to upload

999
00:46:54,790 --> 00:46:52,560
whatever you call

1000
00:46:57,430 --> 00:46:54,800
consciousness soul

1001
00:46:59,510 --> 00:46:57,440
memory creator etc and you know ray

1002
00:47:02,230 --> 00:46:59,520
kurzweil to mention him again

1003
00:47:04,870 --> 00:47:02,240
he's he's really mapped out a very good

1004
00:47:07,030 --> 00:47:04,880
road map to how that all happens

1005
00:47:09,750 --> 00:47:07,040
and how would it happen

1006
00:47:12,550 --> 00:47:09,760
would it be part of the memory upload is

1007
00:47:13,430 --> 00:47:12,560
it just that all particles

1008
00:47:14,950 --> 00:47:13,440
you know

1009
00:47:16,710 --> 00:47:14,960
in the universe have a little piece of

1010
00:47:19,030 --> 00:47:16,720
consciousness in it and so on that

1011
00:47:20,630 --> 00:47:19,040
computer chip the more you accumulate

1012
00:47:22,549 --> 00:47:20,640
and the more data that comes in the

1013
00:47:25,829 --> 00:47:22,559
consciousness is built

1014
00:47:28,309 --> 00:47:25,839
or is it transferred over and would that

1015
00:47:31,109 --> 00:47:28,319
consciousness be the same

1016
00:47:32,950 --> 00:47:31,119
as you or would it be a new one yeah

1017
00:47:35,190 --> 00:47:32,960
yeah or would it be a

1018
00:47:38,390 --> 00:47:35,200
like a one a of you yeah i think of it

1019
00:47:40,950 --> 00:47:38,400
this way the memories go on a hard drive

1020
00:47:43,270 --> 00:47:40,960
what creates the memories is your ram if

1021
00:47:45,589 --> 00:47:43,280
you want to use the computer analogy

1022
00:47:47,750 --> 00:47:45,599
the putting the memories on a hard drive

1023
00:47:50,870 --> 00:47:47,760
is already difficult enough

1024
00:47:53,349 --> 00:47:50,880
but capturing that active engine that

1025
00:47:56,230 --> 00:47:53,359
creates them your personality however

1026
00:47:58,630 --> 00:47:56,240
chemical and microbiome it might be

1027
00:47:59,829 --> 00:47:58,640
is a is orders of magnitude more

1028
00:48:00,950 --> 00:47:59,839
difficult

1029
00:48:03,270 --> 00:48:00,960
but

1030
00:48:05,589 --> 00:48:03,280
i believe especially since i'm a radical

1031
00:48:07,589 --> 00:48:05,599
life extensionist we could talk about

1032
00:48:09,829 --> 00:48:07,599
that if you want i believe that will

1033
00:48:11,829 --> 00:48:09,839
happen in the lifetimes of many of us

1034
00:48:14,309 --> 00:48:11,839
and i think at that point

1035
00:48:15,589 --> 00:48:14,319
we will achieve since we may well have

1036
00:48:17,589 --> 00:48:15,599
backups

1037
00:48:19,670 --> 00:48:17,599
which introduces a whole another host of

1038
00:48:22,630 --> 00:48:19,680
issues and there's a great episode on

1039
00:48:25,349 --> 00:48:22,640
black mirror called the uss callister

1040
00:48:28,150 --> 00:48:25,359
that went into the dark side of

1041
00:48:30,069 --> 00:48:28,160
backing up your

1042
00:48:32,309 --> 00:48:30,079
consciousness let's call it

1043
00:48:34,790 --> 00:48:32,319
we are going to face those decisions

1044
00:48:36,309 --> 00:48:34,800
within the next 30 40 years

1045
00:48:39,829 --> 00:48:36,319
and do

1046
00:48:42,470 --> 00:48:39,839
will it be something that we understand

1047
00:48:44,710 --> 00:48:42,480
and i'm talking about the process or is

1048
00:48:46,790 --> 00:48:44,720
it possible that the process will be

1049
00:48:49,270 --> 00:48:46,800
something that we don't understand

1050
00:48:52,710 --> 00:48:49,280
but the consciousness transfer just

1051
00:48:55,430 --> 00:48:53,670
yes

1052
00:48:58,150 --> 00:48:55,440
yeah

1053
00:49:01,510 --> 00:48:58,160
you know it's it's i mean those are

1054
00:49:02,549 --> 00:49:01,520
those are post singularity events right

1055
00:49:04,870 --> 00:49:02,559
and you know

1056
00:49:08,710 --> 00:49:04,880
singularity means an event horizon

1057
00:49:10,470 --> 00:49:08,720
beyond which we don't understand and so

1058
00:49:11,670 --> 00:49:10,480
it's those are just mind-bending

1059
00:49:14,069 --> 00:49:11,680
questions but

1060
00:49:16,470 --> 00:49:14,079
you know the bottom line for me

1061
00:49:18,630 --> 00:49:16,480
in thinking about uploading

1062
00:49:21,349 --> 00:49:18,640
consciousness or lifespan

1063
00:49:22,390 --> 00:49:21,359
is that we are the generation on the

1064
00:49:25,829 --> 00:49:22,400
cusp

1065
00:49:28,309 --> 00:49:25,839
of what i call lifetime escape velocity

1066
00:49:30,710 --> 00:49:28,319
where with personalized medicine and all

1067
00:49:32,950 --> 00:49:30,720
these other you know thymol regeneration

1068
00:49:34,150 --> 00:49:32,960
which is what i'm doing and other

1069
00:49:37,589 --> 00:49:34,160
techniques

1070
00:49:41,750 --> 00:49:37,599
you can actually age chronologically but

1071
00:49:44,470 --> 00:49:41,760
get younger in a systemic methylation

1072
00:49:47,109 --> 00:49:44,480
uh on a methylation level you can get

1073
00:49:48,790 --> 00:49:47,119
younger biologically each day

1074
00:49:50,630 --> 00:49:48,800
now you can still get hit by a bus or

1075
00:49:52,790 --> 00:49:50,640
have something else happen to you so

1076
00:49:53,589 --> 00:49:52,800
until you have that backup

1077
00:49:56,150 --> 00:49:53,599
you're

1078
00:49:58,549 --> 00:49:56,160
immortal with a lowercase i but once

1079
00:50:00,470 --> 00:49:58,559
you've got a backup and it's redundant

1080
00:50:01,750 --> 00:50:00,480
and it's in your own

1081
00:50:03,109 --> 00:50:01,760
consciousness

1082
00:50:05,190 --> 00:50:03,119
cold wallet

1083
00:50:07,270 --> 00:50:05,200
then you're immortal

1084
00:50:11,430 --> 00:50:07,280
how much how much hard drive space are

1085
00:50:14,630 --> 00:50:12,470
i would say

1086
00:50:16,069 --> 00:50:14,640
well i mean look at the brain um

1087
00:50:17,270 --> 00:50:16,079
you know they've already figured out the

1088
00:50:19,349 --> 00:50:17,280
number of

1089
00:50:21,829 --> 00:50:19,359
neurons and

1090
00:50:22,790 --> 00:50:21,839
the sort of processing capacity of the

1091
00:50:25,349 --> 00:50:22,800
brain

1092
00:50:27,589 --> 00:50:25,359
and we've got computers that can process

1093
00:50:29,829 --> 00:50:27,599
faster than the brain right now you know

1094
00:50:32,230 --> 00:50:29,839
um they're very narrow in focus and they

1095
00:50:33,589 --> 00:50:32,240
don't have like the pattern matching and

1096
00:50:35,829 --> 00:50:33,599
the things like that that the brain

1097
00:50:37,670 --> 00:50:35,839
brings a sort of richness of that

1098
00:50:40,069 --> 00:50:37,680
tapestry of human

1099
00:50:41,430 --> 00:50:40,079
you know species and individual behavior

1100
00:50:44,630 --> 00:50:41,440
and personality

1101
00:50:46,870 --> 00:50:44,640
but in terms of just the

1102
00:50:49,510 --> 00:50:46,880
the capacity to store memories that's

1103
00:50:51,270 --> 00:50:49,520
not really a lot

1104
00:50:54,390 --> 00:50:51,280
so

1105
00:50:57,030 --> 00:50:54,400
again give me an idea what would you

1106
00:50:59,750 --> 00:50:57,040
what would you do 2.5 terabytes 2.5

1107
00:51:01,270 --> 00:50:59,760
terabytes okay not it's not too terribly

1108
00:51:02,549 --> 00:51:01,280
ginormous

1109
00:51:04,710 --> 00:51:02,559
there's um

1110
00:51:05,990 --> 00:51:04,720
there's one thing

1111
00:51:07,910 --> 00:51:06,000
that

1112
00:51:09,349 --> 00:51:07,920
maybe

1113
00:51:11,030 --> 00:51:09,359
if we get to

1114
00:51:13,430 --> 00:51:11,040
uh

1115
00:51:15,750 --> 00:51:13,440
an artificial general intelligence level

1116
00:51:16,790 --> 00:51:15,760
this could come into play

1117
00:51:18,549 --> 00:51:16,800
but

1118
00:51:21,589 --> 00:51:18,559
let's say

1119
00:51:23,430 --> 00:51:21,599
i like blue cars

1120
00:51:24,790 --> 00:51:23,440
now

1121
00:51:27,430 --> 00:51:24,800
maybe

1122
00:51:30,630 --> 00:51:27,440
that artificial general intelligence

1123
00:51:33,270 --> 00:51:30,640
will be able to understand that and and

1124
00:51:34,829 --> 00:51:33,280
pick me out my next blue car

1125
00:51:38,230 --> 00:51:34,839
but they don't know

1126
00:51:39,670 --> 00:51:38,240
why right and it could be my experience

1127
00:51:42,069 --> 00:51:39,680
when i was five years old and my

1128
00:51:43,990 --> 00:51:42,079
neighbor had a blue car or whatever you

1129
00:51:45,510 --> 00:51:44,000
know and i'm talking about blue cars but

1130
00:51:48,069 --> 00:51:45,520
it could be anything

1131
00:51:50,630 --> 00:51:48,079
of a personal emotional thing that

1132
00:51:51,510 --> 00:51:50,640
happened in the distant past that would

1133
00:51:53,030 --> 00:51:51,520
have

1134
00:51:55,109 --> 00:51:53,040
nothing to do

1135
00:51:56,710 --> 00:51:55,119
with machine learning

1136
00:51:59,670 --> 00:51:56,720
right and isn't that something that

1137
00:52:00,950 --> 00:51:59,680
would always be missing from

1138
00:52:03,190 --> 00:52:00,960
uh

1139
00:52:09,750 --> 00:52:03,200
agi

1140
00:52:11,109 --> 00:52:09,760
it's beyond human capabilities and

1141
00:52:13,190 --> 00:52:11,119
what you're talking about there's a very

1142
00:52:15,910 --> 00:52:13,200
interesting example jimmy so yes so

1143
00:52:18,470 --> 00:52:15,920
let's say that this agi has access to

1144
00:52:20,549 --> 00:52:18,480
all your memories and it knows okay you

1145
00:52:23,349 --> 00:52:20,559
were super impressed you saw

1146
00:52:24,150 --> 00:52:23,359
a blue chevy caprice when you're a kid

1147
00:52:26,309 --> 00:52:24,160
okay

1148
00:52:29,270 --> 00:52:26,319
now it's one thing to have that memory

1149
00:52:31,829 --> 00:52:29,280
the next level is to understand the

1150
00:52:32,549 --> 00:52:31,839
tagging that your brain associated with

1151
00:52:35,430 --> 00:52:32,559
that

1152
00:52:38,150 --> 00:52:35,440
the level of emotional impact

1153
00:52:39,510 --> 00:52:38,160
the importance you know how it affected

1154
00:52:42,230 --> 00:52:39,520
you overall

1155
00:52:44,390 --> 00:52:42,240
and weighing that against other options

1156
00:52:46,309 --> 00:52:44,400
you know hey most of your clothes are

1157
00:52:48,630 --> 00:52:46,319
gray

1158
00:52:51,349 --> 00:52:48,640
your house is this color and sort of

1159
00:52:54,710 --> 00:52:51,359
weighing the relevance of all the data

1160
00:52:57,109 --> 00:52:54,720
points and wait and waiting them

1161
00:52:59,190 --> 00:52:57,119
as a you know also

1162
00:53:01,670 --> 00:52:59,200
understanding hey is there a general

1163
00:53:04,390 --> 00:53:01,680
rule for more recent ones take primacy

1164
00:53:05,589 --> 00:53:04,400
over older ones there's a whole lot of

1165
00:53:08,309 --> 00:53:05,599
sort of

1166
00:53:11,109 --> 00:53:08,319
of expert choice that you need to put

1167
00:53:12,309 --> 00:53:11,119
into that to sort of understand and then

1168
00:53:14,309 --> 00:53:12,319
also

1169
00:53:16,390 --> 00:53:14,319
you know agi

1170
00:53:19,430 --> 00:53:16,400
also sort of presumes the ability to

1171
00:53:22,710 --> 00:53:19,440
learn by itself and to see how you make

1172
00:53:23,750 --> 00:53:22,720
choices and over time to say hey this

1173
00:53:25,589 --> 00:53:23,760
guy

1174
00:53:27,510 --> 00:53:25,599
really likes things from that point in

1175
00:53:29,750 --> 00:53:27,520
his childhood before you know things

1176
00:53:32,309 --> 00:53:29,760
went to hell in the handbasket okay

1177
00:53:34,630 --> 00:53:32,319
let's stick with those until we see that

1178
00:53:37,349 --> 00:53:34,640
he refuses that and then we'll sort of

1179
00:53:39,990 --> 00:53:37,359
revise the algorithm right which is uh

1180
00:53:42,230 --> 00:53:40,000
which is a yes or no

1181
00:53:45,430 --> 00:53:42,240
machine learning situation right what

1182
00:53:48,150 --> 00:53:45,440
about the emotion the the the smell the

1183
00:53:49,829 --> 00:53:48,160
taste the the dopamine

1184
00:53:51,030 --> 00:53:49,839
things that

1185
00:53:52,790 --> 00:53:51,040
that happen

1186
00:53:55,589 --> 00:53:52,800
right here's another kind of twist on

1187
00:53:57,750 --> 00:53:55,599
that okay so the agi let's say it's

1188
00:53:59,190 --> 00:53:57,760
hooked it's either embedded in you or

1189
00:54:00,950 --> 00:53:59,200
hooked up to you

1190
00:54:03,670 --> 00:54:00,960
via a super

1191
00:54:06,150 --> 00:54:03,680
high tech brain computer interface

1192
00:54:08,630 --> 00:54:06,160
let's say that agi

1193
00:54:10,230 --> 00:54:08,640
it's smart enough to not just say hey

1194
00:54:11,109 --> 00:54:10,240
let's try out the blue car see if that

1195
00:54:13,349 --> 00:54:11,119
works

1196
00:54:15,510 --> 00:54:13,359
no what it will do

1197
00:54:17,510 --> 00:54:15,520
it will send a chemical signal to your

1198
00:54:19,589 --> 00:54:17,520
brain of a blue car

1199
00:54:21,510 --> 00:54:19,599
and operating on that chemical level and

1200
00:54:23,670 --> 00:54:21,520
maybe with a handshake and a tip of the

1201
00:54:25,670 --> 00:54:23,680
hat to the microbiome as well

1202
00:54:28,150 --> 00:54:25,680
it floats a

1203
00:54:31,190 --> 00:54:28,160
subconscious trial balloon

1204
00:54:33,190 --> 00:54:31,200
to your chemistry of a blue car your

1205
00:54:34,470 --> 00:54:33,200
chemistry responds hey yeah yeah yeah we

1206
00:54:36,950 --> 00:54:34,480
like that

1207
00:54:38,950 --> 00:54:36,960
then it presents that choice to you for

1208
00:54:40,630 --> 00:54:38,960
perhaps final approval or maybe it's

1209
00:54:43,109 --> 00:54:40,640
already a fat accompli because the

1210
00:54:45,670 --> 00:54:43,119
chemistry and the bacteria are on board

1211
00:54:47,510 --> 00:54:45,680
with the blue car now is is that is

1212
00:54:49,910 --> 00:54:47,520
there a day

1213
00:54:52,870 --> 00:54:49,920
when that could happen

1214
00:54:54,710 --> 00:54:52,880
faster than our natural brain doing the

1215
00:54:56,789 --> 00:54:54,720
same process

1216
00:55:00,230 --> 00:54:56,799
absolutely because the one thing about

1217
00:55:02,630 --> 00:55:00,240
computers is they are super fast so

1218
00:55:05,190 --> 00:55:02,640
whatever they can do they can do very

1219
00:55:07,270 --> 00:55:05,200
fast it's more of the breadth of what

1220
00:55:09,990 --> 00:55:07,280
they can't do they don't understand

1221
00:55:12,789 --> 00:55:10,000
things that aren't easily reducible but

1222
00:55:14,710 --> 00:55:12,799
once they know what to do

1223
00:55:15,910 --> 00:55:14,720
they can do it already fast enough and

1224
00:55:17,990 --> 00:55:15,920
they're just going to get faster and

1225
00:55:20,710 --> 00:55:18,000
faster so

1226
00:55:22,870 --> 00:55:20,720
this is where we switch to ufos for a

1227
00:55:25,829 --> 00:55:22,880
second and then when we come back we'll

1228
00:55:27,190 --> 00:55:25,839
we'll we'll get into bitcoin directly

1229
00:55:29,030 --> 00:55:27,200
e.t

1230
00:55:31,670 --> 00:55:29,040
being more advanced than us if they're

1231
00:55:33,510 --> 00:55:31,680
getting here right of course

1232
00:55:35,109 --> 00:55:33,520
understands this

1233
00:55:38,390 --> 00:55:35,119
they must

1234
00:55:40,230 --> 00:55:38,400
that they are they are way beyond agi is

1235
00:55:43,190 --> 00:55:40,240
what i'm suggesting here

1236
00:55:44,470 --> 00:55:43,200
and and they understand this and they

1237
00:55:45,910 --> 00:55:44,480
must be

1238
00:55:47,589 --> 00:55:45,920
in an a.i

1239
00:55:50,309 --> 00:55:47,599
uh uh

1240
00:55:56,150 --> 00:55:53,430
well think of agis alien general

1241
00:55:57,270 --> 00:55:56,160
intelligence or alien super intelligence

1242
00:55:58,150 --> 00:55:57,280
and

1243
00:55:59,750 --> 00:55:58,160
also

1244
00:56:03,270 --> 00:55:59,760
you know are they

1245
00:56:05,430 --> 00:56:03,280
what we would call purely biological

1246
00:56:06,390 --> 00:56:05,440
sentient beings or have they had some

1247
00:56:07,910 --> 00:56:06,400
type of

1248
00:56:10,470 --> 00:56:07,920
merger with

1249
00:56:11,430 --> 00:56:10,480
an artificial intelligence of their own

1250
00:56:13,589 --> 00:56:11,440
so

1251
00:56:15,190 --> 00:56:13,599
they may well either through a brain

1252
00:56:16,710 --> 00:56:15,200
computer interface

1253
00:56:18,950 --> 00:56:16,720
tap into

1254
00:56:20,390 --> 00:56:18,960
a super powerful

1255
00:56:22,870 --> 00:56:20,400
algorithmic

1256
00:56:24,789 --> 00:56:22,880
soup or they may have that embedded in

1257
00:56:27,510 --> 00:56:24,799
them and they may not see a difference

1258
00:56:28,950 --> 00:56:27,520
between them but you have to think and

1259
00:56:30,950 --> 00:56:28,960
let's call them meta-terrestrial so

1260
00:56:32,470 --> 00:56:30,960
we're not just only extraterrestrial

1261
00:56:34,309 --> 00:56:32,480
right sure maybe another planet maybe

1262
00:56:37,349 --> 00:56:34,319
another dimension as we've talked about

1263
00:56:38,870 --> 00:56:37,359
okay if they're coming here from another

1264
00:56:41,349 --> 00:56:38,880
from elsewhere

1265
00:56:43,829 --> 00:56:41,359
yes presumably they're far more advanced

1266
00:56:46,150 --> 00:56:43,839
than we are and not just 20 years 100

1267
00:56:48,950 --> 00:56:46,160
years but maybe a million years

1268
00:56:51,109 --> 00:56:48,960
so the types of things they could do

1269
00:56:52,870 --> 00:56:51,119
and the speed at which they could do

1270
00:56:55,430 --> 00:56:52,880
things

1271
00:56:58,069 --> 00:56:55,440
is just unimaginable to us i think now

1272
00:57:00,030 --> 00:56:58,079
with with agi we've got four minutes

1273
00:57:01,750 --> 00:57:00,040
before the break

1274
00:57:04,470 --> 00:57:01,760
[Music]

1275
00:57:07,030 --> 00:57:04,480
i would think that the country or the

1276
00:57:07,910 --> 00:57:07,040
corporation that crosses the finish line

1277
00:57:10,829 --> 00:57:07,920
first

1278
00:57:12,470 --> 00:57:10,839
right where we are in a true agi

1279
00:57:15,270 --> 00:57:12,480
situation

1280
00:57:18,470 --> 00:57:15,280
is there any way to pump the brakes or

1281
00:57:19,589 --> 00:57:18,480
is that agi off to the races and out of

1282
00:57:21,589 --> 00:57:19,599
control

1283
00:57:23,910 --> 00:57:21,599
and i'm just talking about average human

1284
00:57:25,430 --> 00:57:23,920
intelligence but if you achieve that

1285
00:57:27,829 --> 00:57:25,440
moment

1286
00:57:30,390 --> 00:57:27,839
is it it's just is that just

1287
00:57:32,789 --> 00:57:30,400
gone there's no way that any other

1288
00:57:35,589 --> 00:57:32,799
country ev everybody else loses right

1289
00:57:36,870 --> 00:57:35,599
there's only one winner at that point

1290
00:57:39,270 --> 00:57:36,880
well

1291
00:57:42,309 --> 00:57:39,280
there's levels of artificial

1292
00:57:45,589 --> 00:57:42,319
intelligence and scopes of what it does

1293
00:57:47,670 --> 00:57:45,599
so it could be very powerful but only in

1294
00:57:49,510 --> 00:57:47,680
cleaning things up and inadvertently

1295
00:57:51,990 --> 00:57:49,520
clean us up right there's all kinds of

1296
00:57:52,789 --> 00:57:52,000
risks of ambiguity in the instruction

1297
00:57:55,990 --> 00:57:52,799
set

1298
00:57:58,710 --> 00:57:56,000
but let's take this sort of broad stroke

1299
00:58:01,349 --> 00:57:58,720
approach of an agi that we think is

1300
00:58:02,470 --> 00:58:01,359
all-powerful i think there are basically

1301
00:58:04,069 --> 00:58:02,480
two

1302
00:58:05,910 --> 00:58:04,079
technological

1303
00:58:09,190 --> 00:58:05,920
events that could happen

1304
00:58:11,349 --> 00:58:09,200
such that the entity that has that

1305
00:58:13,510 --> 00:58:11,359
is game over and they they you know all

1306
00:58:17,829 --> 00:58:13,520
your base are belong to us

1307
00:58:19,270 --> 00:58:17,839
one is a substantive advance in agi

1308
00:58:20,950 --> 00:58:19,280
because now

1309
00:58:23,589 --> 00:58:20,960
at the kind of level that we're talking

1310
00:58:26,309 --> 00:58:23,599
about abstractly now

1311
00:58:28,470 --> 00:58:26,319
all of your battleships all of your

1312
00:58:30,710 --> 00:58:28,480
computer systems are mine and they are

1313
00:58:31,750 --> 00:58:30,720
working for me so you have nothing to

1314
00:58:34,069 --> 00:58:31,760
fight with

1315
00:58:36,069 --> 00:58:34,079
and to the extent that this agi is

1316
00:58:37,430 --> 00:58:36,079
robust against hacking and against the

1317
00:58:40,069 --> 00:58:37,440
anonymous group

1318
00:58:42,870 --> 00:58:40,079
and all that okay then that's over the

1319
00:58:46,069 --> 00:58:42,880
other one is a meaningful

1320
00:58:48,390 --> 00:58:46,079
handshake or reverse engineering of

1321
00:58:50,950 --> 00:58:48,400
alien technology

1322
00:58:52,710 --> 00:58:50,960
you know anti-gravity things like that

1323
00:58:53,910 --> 00:58:52,720
those are the two types of things that

1324
00:58:55,030 --> 00:58:53,920
if one

1325
00:58:57,829 --> 00:58:55,040
country

1326
00:59:00,870 --> 00:58:57,839
gets a meaningful substantive advantage

1327
00:59:03,910 --> 00:59:00,880
of in agi or alien tech i think that's

1328
00:59:07,349 --> 00:59:03,920
pretty much game over it would be it is

1329
00:59:08,549 --> 00:59:07,359
is that is we we hear about these

1330
00:59:09,510 --> 00:59:08,559
different

1331
00:59:15,750 --> 00:59:09,520
uh

1332
00:59:17,750 --> 00:59:15,760
different corporations and and brain

1333
00:59:19,510 --> 00:59:17,760
trusting universities and state actors

1334
00:59:20,789 --> 00:59:19,520
around the world are all working on

1335
00:59:24,549 --> 00:59:20,799
these different things

1336
00:59:26,309 --> 00:59:24,559
but is is that the is that the one that

1337
00:59:27,990 --> 00:59:26,319
everybody

1338
00:59:29,829 --> 00:59:28,000
is investing in right now and i'm

1339
00:59:32,309 --> 00:59:29,839
talking about you know the countries of

1340
00:59:33,750 --> 00:59:32,319
the world with their great corporations

1341
00:59:38,870 --> 00:59:33,760
that that goal

1342
00:59:42,150 --> 00:59:41,030
yeah um

1343
00:59:43,990 --> 00:59:42,160
i'm i'm

1344
00:59:45,109 --> 00:59:44,000
it's hard to know but it seems like the

1345
00:59:48,309 --> 00:59:45,119
u.s

1346
00:59:50,710 --> 00:59:48,319
from published accounts isn't as robust

1347
00:59:52,549 --> 00:59:50,720
and i think china is particularly

1348
00:59:54,789 --> 00:59:52,559
uh devoted to this

1349
00:59:56,630 --> 00:59:54,799
um

1350
00:59:59,349 --> 00:59:56,640
but i mean that that's that's a

1351
01:00:00,710 --> 00:59:59,359
qualitative jump forward as opposed to

1352
01:00:02,150 --> 01:00:00,720
iterative

1353
01:00:03,349 --> 01:00:02,160
uh and

1354
01:00:10,870 --> 01:00:03,359
the

1355
01:00:13,190 --> 01:00:10,880
scarlett johansson disembodied character

1356
01:00:15,829 --> 01:00:13,200
becomes self-aware and it's off to the

1357
01:00:17,030 --> 01:00:15,839
races and it's you know it's not just

1358
01:00:19,990 --> 01:00:17,040
like oh

1359
01:00:21,670 --> 01:00:20,000
hey sorry joaquin phoenix um

1360
01:00:23,670 --> 01:00:21,680
i don't like you so much no she just

1361
01:00:25,030 --> 01:00:23,680
completely loses interest overnight

1362
01:00:27,430 --> 01:00:25,040
because her

1363
01:00:29,589 --> 01:00:27,440
her recursive self-improvement is so

1364
01:00:32,549 --> 01:00:29,599
fast that if you have this agi that's

1365
01:00:34,150 --> 01:00:32,559
able to learn and able to

1366
01:00:36,230 --> 01:00:34,160
do all these things it just would be

1367
01:00:37,990 --> 01:00:36,240
lightning fast and that's kind of what

1368
01:00:39,990 --> 01:00:38,000
the singularity is that once that

1369
01:00:41,430 --> 01:00:40,000
happens the point at which

1370
01:00:43,589 --> 01:00:41,440
artificial intelligence becomes

1371
01:00:46,150 --> 01:00:43,599
self-aware either because

1372
01:00:48,069 --> 01:00:46,160
it has had consciousness as an emergent

1373
01:00:51,030 --> 01:00:48,079
property or we've somehow grafted it on

1374
01:00:53,109 --> 01:00:51,040
there or because we have

1375
01:00:55,829 --> 01:00:53,119
incorporated sufficient machine

1376
01:00:57,829 --> 01:00:55,839
capabilities into ourselves who already

1377
01:00:59,670 --> 01:00:57,839
have the consciousness once that

1378
01:01:02,789 --> 01:00:59,680
coupling takes place

1379
01:01:04,470 --> 01:01:02,799
it's not a slow process for it to start

1380
01:01:05,829 --> 01:01:04,480
pursuing its goals no it would be

1381
01:01:09,270 --> 01:01:05,839
immediate

1382
01:01:11,750 --> 01:01:09,280
if if uh so you know i've got this agi

1383
01:01:14,870 --> 01:01:11,760
we we do it and i go you know what

1384
01:01:16,470 --> 01:01:14,880
write me the perfect

1385
01:01:20,230 --> 01:01:16,480
gangster movie

1386
01:01:22,230 --> 01:01:20,240
or whatever right and and literally

1387
01:01:26,630 --> 01:01:22,240
in an hour

1388
01:01:30,549 --> 01:01:26,640
the agi could read all of the great

1389
01:01:33,670 --> 01:01:30,559
fiction works of fiction ever published

1390
01:01:35,829 --> 01:01:33,680
right every screenplay ever written

1391
01:01:38,230 --> 01:01:35,839
every you know and and and do it

1392
01:01:40,549 --> 01:01:38,240
immediately something that would take

1393
01:01:42,950 --> 01:01:40,559
thousands and thousands of screenwriters

1394
01:01:44,549 --> 01:01:42,960
and individual brains to do over

1395
01:01:47,109 --> 01:01:44,559
hundreds of years

1396
01:01:49,349 --> 01:01:47,119
right you could go to openai right now

1397
01:01:51,190 --> 01:01:49,359
and i've got a good friend andrew mayne

1398
01:01:52,710 --> 01:01:51,200
who is writing all their technical

1399
01:01:54,309 --> 01:01:52,720
materials and helping people understand

1400
01:01:56,069 --> 01:01:54,319
what they do because it's

1401
01:01:57,910 --> 01:01:56,079
their capabilities are so strong it's

1402
01:01:59,029 --> 01:01:57,920
hard to understand you can go in there

1403
01:02:01,829 --> 01:01:59,039
and type

1404
01:02:05,510 --> 01:02:01,839
a koala dunking a basketball

1405
01:02:07,910 --> 01:02:05,520
and it will create photo real images of

1406
01:02:09,510 --> 01:02:07,920
a koala dunking a basketball or whatever

1407
01:02:11,109 --> 01:02:09,520
else you can think of

1408
01:02:12,630 --> 01:02:11,119
and that's happening right now and

1409
01:02:14,150 --> 01:02:12,640
that's free

1410
01:02:15,990 --> 01:02:14,160
and scary

1411
01:02:17,750 --> 01:02:16,000
and this is where we take our first

1412
01:02:20,470 --> 01:02:17,760
break our guest tonight paul heineck

1413
01:02:23,990 --> 01:02:20,480
tonight we're talking about bitcoin and

1414
01:02:25,910 --> 01:02:24,000
ufos and this is a great setup for this

1415
01:02:27,190 --> 01:02:25,920
segue i'm yours jimmy church this is

1416
01:02:28,710 --> 01:02:27,200
fade to black

1417
01:02:32,610 --> 01:02:28,720
more with paul heineck right after this

1418
01:02:54,610 --> 01:02:32,620
short break stay with us

1419
01:02:54,620 --> 01:02:58,069
[Music]

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jimmy church and fade to black on the

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always wanted your first crystal skull

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or maybe you're a collector just like me

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but you just don't know where to go to

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receiving the ancient wisdom from the

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skulls just visit her store at einstein

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hi racehobbs with the x obviously if

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you're listening to this you have an

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interest in unexplained phenomena like

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know that we have our own ex-blog the

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all right welcome back fade to black i

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am your host jimmy church tonight paul

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01:07:49,190 --> 01:07:46,960
heineck is with us

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01:07:50,789 --> 01:07:49,200
we're going to be talking about

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01:07:52,789 --> 01:07:50,799
bitcoin

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01:07:54,829 --> 01:07:52,799
and ufos

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01:07:57,270 --> 01:07:54,839
what is the

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connection i'm telling you there's one

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01:08:01,670 --> 01:07:59,200
there's two there's three

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01:08:03,910 --> 01:08:01,680
and tonight we're gonna find out and as

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01:08:06,710 --> 01:08:03,920
we uh jump into this

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01:08:08,829 --> 01:08:06,720
uh feet first paul let's let's start

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01:08:13,910 --> 01:08:08,839
with bitcoin

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and give me a definition what is bitcoin

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01:08:18,070 --> 01:08:15,680
uh first i want to say thanks for that

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01:08:19,990 --> 01:08:18,080
break i had a nice refreshing glass of

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01:08:24,390 --> 01:08:20,000
oat milk and it really really hit the

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so

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uh bitcoin

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01:08:30,870 --> 01:08:28,640
so let me

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preface that by saying you know

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01:08:34,709 --> 01:08:32,799
a ufo disclosure

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01:08:37,030 --> 01:08:34,719
we talked about like if a government has

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01:08:39,829 --> 01:08:37,040
that technology kind of game over

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01:08:42,550 --> 01:08:39,839
a ufo disclosure with a capital d

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01:08:45,829 --> 01:08:42,560
is the biggest revelation in history

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01:08:47,590 --> 01:08:45,839
right and i will put to you that bitcoin

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01:08:50,070 --> 01:08:47,600
blockchain and i think we might use

1553
01:08:52,149 --> 01:08:50,080
these terms a little bit interchangeably

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01:08:53,669 --> 01:08:52,159
is the biggest innovation in our

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01:08:56,709 --> 01:08:53,679
lifetimes

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01:08:57,910 --> 01:08:56,719
it really is um bitcoin's far more than

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something to

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diversify your portfolio it's the future

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01:09:04,070 --> 01:09:03,040
of money itself

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um

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if we look at the current situation

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and it's just not picking at democrats

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or republicans but both of them

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it's a bad situation today came out that

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01:09:19,269 --> 01:09:17,279
we have 8.5 inflation

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and that's artificially low that's just

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the cpi which is jerry-rigged it doesn't

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include tuition healthcare

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real estate everything else that you

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have to buy

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01:09:29,669 --> 01:09:28,719
so it's a lot it's a lot higher than

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that

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so and there's two

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there's two causes of inflation supply

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and demand prices going up but also when

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a government prints more money and i

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01:09:41,669 --> 01:09:40,080
think most of us know that the

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government's been on a printing spree

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like never before like 40 of all dollars

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ever printed in the last 18 months or

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01:09:52,550 --> 01:09:50,640
two years that never ends well

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01:09:54,870 --> 01:09:52,560
so we've got

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every dollar they print reduces the

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value of every dollar in circulation

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that's just a mathematical axiom

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so with the inflation from prices and

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printing up new dollars

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it's a

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unprecedentedly large systematic theft

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from each and every one of us that has

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any asset denominated in dollars what's

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that what's the difference i'm gonna

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interrupt you if i may

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what's the difference then in in every

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new bitcoin that is created isn't it the

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same

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philosophy

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ah so it's not well uh

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yes but and it's a big but so

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bitcoin

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was created as an antidote

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to the 2008 financial crisis

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it is the hardest money ever created and

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what that means is in economics when you

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have a hard money supply think of gold

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um lots of times in histories and for

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01:10:57,990 --> 01:10:55,360
most of american history

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our dollars were backed either by gold

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or silver

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which meant that

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at least theoretically if we were

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playing by the rules we could not print

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01:11:09,830 --> 01:11:07,679
more dollars than gold we had in fort

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knox and other locations

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okay

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and gold has always been a good currency

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a good money

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because of what they call stock to flow

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01:11:22,709 --> 01:11:19,920
it's just historically

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you've never had more than about a one

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percent increase every year in the total

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01:11:30,950 --> 01:11:28,320
amount of gold in the world because it's

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hard it's expensive to mine and now we

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have so much gold

1625
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that a one percent increase is still a

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01:11:40,950 --> 01:11:37,840
lot of gold mining so gold holds its

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01:11:42,709 --> 01:11:40,960
value very well it's a relatively hard

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currency because you can't expand it

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willy-nilly

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the u.s dollar the japanese yen the

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01:11:50,229 --> 01:11:47,840
european you know the euro these are all

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01:11:51,990 --> 01:11:50,239
what they call fiat coins

1633
01:11:54,790 --> 01:11:52,000
they're not backed you know the dollar

1634
01:11:57,110 --> 01:11:54,800
was backed until 1971 it's not backed by

1635
01:11:58,390 --> 01:11:57,120
gold anymore so these are called fiat

1636
01:12:00,709 --> 01:11:58,400
coins because the government just

1637
01:12:02,149 --> 01:12:00,719
declares them by fiat and prints as much

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01:12:04,310 --> 01:12:02,159
as they want to

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01:12:05,910 --> 01:12:04,320
there's nothing backing the us dollar

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01:12:08,390 --> 01:12:05,920
there's kind of a

1641
01:12:10,070 --> 01:12:08,400
support system the full faith and

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01:12:12,070 --> 01:12:10,080
confidence of the government they're not

1643
01:12:14,070 --> 01:12:12,080
backed right okay so what is backing

1644
01:12:16,390 --> 01:12:14,080
bitcoin because there's mining

1645
01:12:18,550 --> 01:12:16,400
operations all over the globe cranking

1646
01:12:22,790 --> 01:12:18,560
them out just like the printing presses

1647
01:12:24,390 --> 01:12:22,800
of the us mint right so that's true now

1648
01:12:27,430 --> 01:12:24,400
the difference is

1649
01:12:30,310 --> 01:12:27,440
bitcoin has a total

1650
01:12:31,510 --> 01:12:30,320
eventual circulation of 21 million

1651
01:12:33,350 --> 01:12:31,520
bitcoins

1652
01:12:34,790 --> 01:12:33,360
and it will never be any more than that

1653
01:12:37,669 --> 01:12:34,800
and we already know it is it's a very

1654
01:12:40,470 --> 01:12:37,679
set schedule of the mining of bitcoin it

1655
01:12:42,310 --> 01:12:40,480
will never be any more than 21 million

1656
01:12:43,990 --> 01:12:42,320
so even though they're still mining them

1657
01:12:45,270 --> 01:12:44,000
and it will be for another 100 years or

1658
01:12:48,709 --> 01:12:45,280
so

1659
01:12:51,590 --> 01:12:48,719
already 19 million bitcoins have been

1660
01:12:54,229 --> 01:12:51,600
mined so there's only two million more

1661
01:12:56,870 --> 01:12:54,239
ever to be mined and people know exactly

1662
01:12:59,590 --> 01:12:56,880
what that schedule is okay so

1663
01:13:01,750 --> 01:12:59,600
okay i this is just for me i'm i'm

1664
01:13:03,590 --> 01:13:01,760
asking these questions for the audience

1665
01:13:05,189 --> 01:13:03,600
because as you speak

1666
01:13:07,189 --> 01:13:05,199
they're thinking these thoughts and the

1667
01:13:10,310 --> 01:13:07,199
first one is wait a minute it was

1668
01:13:12,550 --> 01:13:10,320
created in 2008 we're in 2022.

1669
01:13:14,870 --> 01:13:12,560
so that's 14 years ago we're at 19

1670
01:13:17,990 --> 01:13:14,880
million bitcoins but it's gonna take a

1671
01:13:19,350 --> 01:13:18,000
hundred more years to mine another 2

1672
01:13:21,750 --> 01:13:19,360
million

1673
01:13:23,030 --> 01:13:21,760
yeah because there's a halving every

1674
01:13:25,669 --> 01:13:23,040
four years

1675
01:13:29,510 --> 01:13:25,679
the hash rate the frequency at which new

1676
01:13:32,149 --> 01:13:29,520
bitcoin are mined drops by half

1677
01:13:34,870 --> 01:13:32,159
there's a lot of logic for that but the

1678
01:13:36,790 --> 01:13:34,880
main point in comparison to fiats and

1679
01:13:38,870 --> 01:13:36,800
the unlimited supply you know the us

1680
01:13:39,750 --> 01:13:38,880
government there's no

1681
01:13:41,430 --> 01:13:39,760
limit

1682
01:13:42,950 --> 01:13:41,440
they can print as many dollars as they

1683
01:13:44,550 --> 01:13:42,960
want there's nothing to stop them from

1684
01:13:47,030 --> 01:13:44,560
doing you can't turn off the tap or

1685
01:13:48,149 --> 01:13:47,040
they're not going to and the problem if

1686
01:13:51,030 --> 01:13:48,159
you do that

1687
01:13:53,590 --> 01:13:51,040
like with with covid or tarp yeah it's a

1688
01:13:56,550 --> 01:13:53,600
big stimulus for the economy but there's

1689
01:13:58,470 --> 01:13:56,560
a hangover if there was no cost to

1690
01:14:00,149 --> 01:13:58,480
printing more dollars well then the

1691
01:14:01,990 --> 01:14:00,159
government wouldn't need to take money

1692
01:14:03,189 --> 01:14:02,000
from us for taxes they just print more

1693
01:14:07,350 --> 01:14:03,199
money

1694
01:14:10,070 --> 01:14:07,360
because we know exactly what that

1695
01:14:11,830 --> 01:14:10,080
schedule is and it's decreasing so

1696
01:14:13,990 --> 01:14:11,840
there's going to be fewer and fewer

1697
01:14:15,510 --> 01:14:14,000
bitcoin that enter the system from now

1698
01:14:18,310 --> 01:14:15,520
on

1699
01:14:20,550 --> 01:14:18,320
the and it's backed by mathematical

1700
01:14:23,189 --> 01:14:20,560
certainty you know the us all currencies

1701
01:14:26,149 --> 01:14:23,199
in the world are not backed but bitcoin

1702
01:14:28,709 --> 01:14:26,159
is backed by a mathematical contract

1703
01:14:31,510 --> 01:14:28,719
that cannot be violated and which is now

1704
01:14:34,149 --> 01:14:31,520
supported on maybe 100 million computers

1705
01:14:35,350 --> 01:14:34,159
around the world

1706
01:14:37,270 --> 01:14:35,360
who

1707
01:14:38,709 --> 01:14:37,280
okay let's i want to clear up some

1708
01:14:42,149 --> 01:14:38,719
mystery here

1709
01:14:44,070 --> 01:14:42,159
who who wrote the software

1710
01:14:46,470 --> 01:14:44,080
okay now

1711
01:14:48,709 --> 01:14:46,480
so that's a super interesting point

1712
01:14:50,070 --> 01:14:48,719
nobody knows

1713
01:14:50,950 --> 01:14:50,080
bitcoin

1714
01:14:53,669 --> 01:14:50,960
is

1715
01:14:56,550 --> 01:14:53,679
i believe the biggest innovation our

1716
01:14:58,470 --> 01:14:56,560
lifetimes and we don't know who created

1717
01:15:01,189 --> 01:14:58,480
it i thought it was done by

1718
01:15:04,470 --> 01:15:01,199
satoshi yamamoto or whatever his name is

1719
01:15:07,510 --> 01:15:04,480
nakamoto is the pseudonymous name that

1720
01:15:11,189 --> 01:15:07,520
the creator or creators man women

1721
01:15:15,030 --> 01:15:11,199
whoever it was used in posts starting in

1722
01:15:16,310 --> 01:15:15,040
2008 through 2010 online and then

1723
01:15:19,510 --> 01:15:16,320
disappeared

1724
01:15:21,030 --> 01:15:19,520
what about wait wait wait stop stop you

1725
01:15:21,990 --> 01:15:21,040
can't say that

1726
01:15:24,070 --> 01:15:22,000
because

1727
01:15:27,510 --> 01:15:24,080
well you are saying it but what about

1728
01:15:30,070 --> 01:15:27,520
the interviews that i've read and

1729
01:15:33,270 --> 01:15:30,080
and the story that

1730
01:15:35,750 --> 01:15:33,280
he presented and and why and the

1731
01:15:39,270 --> 01:15:35,760
philosophy and the moral

1732
01:15:43,350 --> 01:15:39,280
foundation of of bitcoin and all of that

1733
01:15:45,990 --> 01:15:43,360
are you saying that that was made up

1734
01:15:47,990 --> 01:15:46,000
the only communications

1735
01:15:50,550 --> 01:15:48,000
that are

1736
01:15:53,189 --> 01:15:50,560
reliable to have come from

1737
01:15:54,470 --> 01:15:53,199
the code name satoshi nakamoto are the

1738
01:15:58,229 --> 01:15:54,480
white paper

1739
01:15:59,910 --> 01:15:58,239
that he she they posted on halloween day

1740
01:16:01,990 --> 01:15:59,920
in 2008

1741
01:16:04,270 --> 01:16:02,000
and about a hundred

1742
01:16:06,630 --> 01:16:04,280
subsequent emails and postings to

1743
01:16:07,990 --> 01:16:06,640
bitcoin bitcoin.org

1744
01:16:09,110 --> 01:16:08,000
there's nothing else there are no

1745
01:16:10,870 --> 01:16:09,120
interviews

1746
01:16:11,830 --> 01:16:10,880
there are no video there's no nothing

1747
01:16:13,669 --> 01:16:11,840
like that

1748
01:16:17,910 --> 01:16:13,679
no i don't think i've ever seen a video

1749
01:16:21,030 --> 01:16:17,920
that's a that's a good point but uh i'm

1750
01:16:22,390 --> 01:16:21,040
i'm positive i've read interviews

1751
01:16:24,790 --> 01:16:22,400
um

1752
01:16:27,669 --> 01:16:24,800
yeah uh

1753
01:16:29,110 --> 01:16:27,679
the other thing about satoshi nakamoto

1754
01:16:30,310 --> 01:16:29,120
is that

1755
01:16:33,110 --> 01:16:30,320
there are

1756
01:16:34,630 --> 01:16:33,120
about one million bitcoin

1757
01:16:37,030 --> 01:16:34,640
in the wallet

1758
01:16:39,189 --> 01:16:37,040
it's like a personal bank that belongs

1759
01:16:42,709 --> 01:16:39,199
to satoshi nakamoto

1760
01:16:44,790 --> 01:16:42,719
they have never been touched

1761
01:16:47,990 --> 01:16:44,800
so a lot of people think that this

1762
01:16:50,070 --> 01:16:48,000
person died in 2010 around the time they

1763
01:16:52,550 --> 01:16:50,080
stopped making any posts now there's

1764
01:16:54,149 --> 01:16:52,560
some other even wilder theories which

1765
01:16:56,149 --> 01:16:54,159
can bring us back to aliens and things

1766
01:16:57,830 --> 01:16:56,159
like that but

1767
01:16:59,750 --> 01:16:57,840
you know you've got a technology because

1768
01:17:02,550 --> 01:16:59,760
bitcoin is not a it's not a coin it's

1769
01:17:03,910 --> 01:17:02,560
not a money it's not a a currency it's a

1770
01:17:06,709 --> 01:17:03,920
technology

1771
01:17:08,470 --> 01:17:06,719
and riding on the blockchain

1772
01:17:10,709 --> 01:17:08,480
so you've got somebody

1773
01:17:13,110 --> 01:17:10,719
and no never before has somebody created

1774
01:17:17,189 --> 01:17:13,120
something out of scratch with no company

1775
01:17:19,350 --> 01:17:17,199
behind it no marketing budget no nothing

1776
01:17:22,630 --> 01:17:19,360
purely by viral

1777
01:17:25,990 --> 01:17:22,640
contact has gone from nothing

1778
01:17:28,229 --> 01:17:26,000
to being worth almost a trillion dollars

1779
01:17:30,870 --> 01:17:28,239
in about a decade

1780
01:17:31,830 --> 01:17:30,880
we've never seen anything like that

1781
01:17:33,910 --> 01:17:31,840
how

1782
01:17:37,189 --> 01:17:33,920
would

1783
01:17:39,669 --> 01:17:37,199
those 1 million bitcoins

1784
01:17:42,830 --> 01:17:39,679
ever get circulated

1785
01:17:45,750 --> 01:17:42,840
it's not possible is it if it's in his

1786
01:17:47,270 --> 01:17:45,760
wallet uh well it depends i mean let's

1787
01:17:49,830 --> 01:17:47,280
say that

1788
01:17:53,030 --> 01:17:49,840
let's say satoshi nakamoto was one woman

1789
01:17:55,910 --> 01:17:53,040
and she had the million coins in her

1790
01:17:59,189 --> 01:17:55,920
wallet and let's say she died

1791
01:18:01,590 --> 01:17:59,199
if nobody else had the pass code

1792
01:18:02,630 --> 01:18:01,600
then yes those bitcoin are lost and

1793
01:18:04,470 --> 01:18:02,640
there's

1794
01:18:06,149 --> 01:18:04,480
in that in that scenario no way to get

1795
01:18:08,470 --> 01:18:06,159
them back now

1796
01:18:11,030 --> 01:18:08,480
that person might still be around they

1797
01:18:13,830 --> 01:18:11,040
may have shared their passcode with

1798
01:18:15,910 --> 01:18:13,840
instructions not to divulge it for

1799
01:18:18,229 --> 01:18:15,920
20 years who know there's all sorts of

1800
01:18:21,110 --> 01:18:18,239
scenarios you can imagine

1801
01:18:23,350 --> 01:18:21,120
but the one that seems most likely to me

1802
01:18:25,669 --> 01:18:23,360
based on a lot of the evidence i've seen

1803
01:18:27,110 --> 01:18:25,679
is it was an individual

1804
01:18:31,110 --> 01:18:27,120
likely

1805
01:18:34,390 --> 01:18:31,120
schooled or native in british english

1806
01:18:36,149 --> 01:18:34,400
a very good but not brilliant coder

1807
01:18:38,229 --> 01:18:36,159
who likely

1808
01:18:40,950 --> 01:18:38,239
died or just for

1809
01:18:43,430 --> 01:18:40,960
got so thoroughly disenchanted

1810
01:18:45,590 --> 01:18:43,440
for some reason and around the time they

1811
01:18:47,910 --> 01:18:45,600
they disappeared they were

1812
01:18:49,590 --> 01:18:47,920
they said they were very scared of

1813
01:18:51,669 --> 01:18:49,600
of all the attention that was coming

1814
01:18:54,630 --> 01:18:51,679
from wikileaks and that that might swamp

1815
01:18:55,669 --> 01:18:54,640
the system and the hornets were swarming

1816
01:18:56,790 --> 01:18:55,679
um

1817
01:18:59,270 --> 01:18:56,800
but

1818
01:19:01,430 --> 01:18:59,280
you know we've never in history had such

1819
01:19:04,470 --> 01:19:01,440
a momentous invention

1820
01:19:05,189 --> 01:19:04,480
and nobody even at the time knew who did

1821
01:19:08,870 --> 01:19:05,199
it

1822
01:19:09,590 --> 01:19:08,880
is the uh this is just a quick question

1823
01:19:13,750 --> 01:19:09,600
but

1824
01:19:15,830 --> 01:19:13,760
with ethereum and the other cryptos that

1825
01:19:17,110 --> 01:19:15,840
are out there do they have the same

1826
01:19:20,070 --> 01:19:17,120
finite

1827
01:19:21,510 --> 01:19:20,080
theoretical life span

1828
01:19:24,229 --> 01:19:21,520
uh at last count there's probably about

1829
01:19:26,550 --> 01:19:24,239
20 000 different cryptocurrencies right

1830
01:19:28,229 --> 01:19:26,560
and they all have different what we call

1831
01:19:29,189 --> 01:19:28,239
tokenomics

1832
01:19:31,830 --> 01:19:29,199
um

1833
01:19:34,070 --> 01:19:31,840
some of them have infinite amounts some

1834
01:19:35,990 --> 01:19:34,080
of them have fixed amounts some of them

1835
01:19:38,790 --> 01:19:36,000
like ethereum is shifting to become

1836
01:19:41,350 --> 01:19:38,800
actually deflationary there will be less

1837
01:19:42,630 --> 01:19:41,360
ethereum over time so they're all

1838
01:19:46,070 --> 01:19:42,640
different and they all have different

1839
01:19:47,189 --> 01:19:46,080
use cases uh bitcoin is unique from

1840
01:19:50,390 --> 01:19:47,199
other ones

1841
01:19:51,990 --> 01:19:50,400
in that it is the most decentralized

1842
01:19:53,750 --> 01:19:52,000
of all the cryptocurrencies because

1843
01:19:58,790 --> 01:19:53,760
there was no

1844
01:20:00,709 --> 01:19:58,800
opportunity for anybody

1845
01:20:03,030 --> 01:20:00,719
to have better terms in anybody even

1846
01:20:05,669 --> 01:20:03,040
satoshi nakamoto had to go through the

1847
01:20:07,110 --> 01:20:05,679
same procedure to mine them as anybody

1848
01:20:08,790 --> 01:20:07,120
else could have

1849
01:20:12,070 --> 01:20:08,800
and

1850
01:20:14,870 --> 01:20:12,080
managing things so it's very

1851
01:20:18,629 --> 01:20:14,880
decentralized all other cryptocurrencies

1852
01:20:20,470 --> 01:20:18,639
are more centralized and trying to do a

1853
01:20:23,510 --> 01:20:20,480
lot of things to be adequately

1854
01:20:26,310 --> 01:20:23,520
decentralized in the eyes of the sec

1855
01:20:28,149 --> 01:20:26,320
now why is it when i go to

1856
01:20:30,470 --> 01:20:28,159
coinbase or or

1857
01:20:33,750 --> 01:20:30,480
different websites and i monitor

1858
01:20:35,270 --> 01:20:33,760
the top 20 cryptos right you look at the

1859
01:20:36,629 --> 01:20:35,280
uh you look at the graphs and the

1860
01:20:39,590 --> 01:20:36,639
trading charts

1861
01:20:42,310 --> 01:20:39,600
they all follow the same ascending and

1862
01:20:44,229 --> 01:20:42,320
descending patterns

1863
01:20:46,790 --> 01:20:44,239
daily they both

1864
01:20:47,990 --> 01:20:46,800
rise and fall together why is that why

1865
01:20:51,030 --> 01:20:48,000
isn't

1866
01:20:52,550 --> 01:20:51,040
one crypto like independent in its

1867
01:20:53,830 --> 01:20:52,560
growth or

1868
01:20:57,669 --> 01:20:53,840
or

1869
01:20:59,030 --> 01:20:57,679
so

1870
01:21:01,030 --> 01:20:59,040
at the moment

1871
01:21:03,669 --> 01:21:01,040
there's a fair amount of correlation

1872
01:21:07,669 --> 01:21:03,679
both between crypto overall

1873
01:21:10,149 --> 01:21:07,679
as an asset class as with equities

1874
01:21:12,709 --> 01:21:10,159
if interest rates go up crypto and

1875
01:21:13,590 --> 01:21:12,719
equities typically go down

1876
01:21:17,590 --> 01:21:13,600
now

1877
01:21:21,110 --> 01:21:17,600
crypto and and bitcoin are still viewed

1878
01:21:23,750 --> 01:21:21,120
more or less as risk on assets

1879
01:21:26,229 --> 01:21:23,760
in that it's a fairly risky asset and if

1880
01:21:29,750 --> 01:21:26,239
things get scary around the world

1881
01:21:30,790 --> 01:21:29,760
people tend to go risk off and sell that

1882
01:21:31,990 --> 01:21:30,800
asset

1883
01:21:34,390 --> 01:21:32,000
now

1884
01:21:36,629 --> 01:21:34,400
what is i think is happening

1885
01:21:39,430 --> 01:21:36,639
is that especially in the institutional

1886
01:21:41,430 --> 01:21:39,440
mindset more than the retail investor

1887
01:21:42,470 --> 01:21:41,440
it's becoming clearer

1888
01:21:44,310 --> 01:21:42,480
because of

1889
01:21:47,189 --> 01:21:44,320
more reasons that we can talk about that

1890
01:21:49,110 --> 01:21:47,199
bitcoin is the safest place you can

1891
01:21:51,430 --> 01:21:49,120
possibly put your money there's some

1892
01:21:53,430 --> 01:21:51,440
accounting difficulties for corporations

1893
01:21:55,910 --> 01:21:53,440
but getting past that

1894
01:21:57,030 --> 01:21:55,920
as soon as companies start to realize

1895
01:21:59,669 --> 01:21:57,040
wow

1896
01:22:01,350 --> 01:21:59,679
if the world goes really badly

1897
01:22:03,669 --> 01:22:01,360
i need to keep my money in bitcoin

1898
01:22:06,229 --> 01:22:03,679
because it won't deflate there

1899
01:22:07,669 --> 01:22:06,239
once companies view it more in that with

1900
01:22:10,470 --> 01:22:07,679
that prism

1901
01:22:14,070 --> 01:22:10,480
that will be an inflection point akin to

1902
01:22:15,910 --> 01:22:14,080
how the in internet took off in 1997 and

1903
01:22:19,189 --> 01:22:15,920
the price of bitcoin in my mind will

1904
01:22:21,590 --> 01:22:19,199
skyrocket along with many other worthy

1905
01:22:22,830 --> 01:22:21,600
cryptocurrencies will there ever be a

1906
01:22:25,430 --> 01:22:22,840
point

1907
01:22:29,270 --> 01:22:25,440
of uh

1908
01:22:32,550 --> 01:22:29,280
the government or any agency being able

1909
01:22:35,030 --> 01:22:32,560
to crack and monitor uh

1910
01:22:36,070 --> 01:22:35,040
cryptos

1911
01:22:39,750 --> 01:22:36,080
so

1912
01:22:42,709 --> 01:22:39,760
of one of the things the connective

1913
01:22:44,470 --> 01:22:42,719
tissues between bitcoin and ufos

1914
01:22:46,950 --> 01:22:44,480
so

1915
01:22:48,709 --> 01:22:46,960
of

1916
01:22:50,629 --> 01:22:48,719
following in my father's footsteps you

1917
01:22:52,390 --> 01:22:50,639
know he created a classification system

1918
01:22:53,669 --> 01:22:52,400
for ufos close encounters for a second

1919
01:22:55,669 --> 01:22:53,679
third kind

1920
01:22:57,750 --> 01:22:55,679
it doesn't speak to the communications

1921
01:22:58,470 --> 01:22:57,760
that took place so i'd like to help sort

1922
01:23:00,870 --> 01:22:58,480
of

1923
01:23:02,550 --> 01:23:00,880
classify communications

1924
01:23:03,830 --> 01:23:02,560
and i've been thinking a lot about that

1925
01:23:05,270 --> 01:23:03,840
and

1926
01:23:06,470 --> 01:23:05,280
i started thinking about well on a

1927
01:23:07,669 --> 01:23:06,480
larger scale

1928
01:23:10,790 --> 01:23:07,679
how would

1929
01:23:12,790 --> 01:23:10,800
planet earth communicate with the

1930
01:23:16,310 --> 01:23:12,800
pleiadians or

1931
01:23:18,709 --> 01:23:16,320
you know from alpha centauri etc on a

1932
01:23:20,470 --> 01:23:18,719
civilization level scale

1933
01:23:22,470 --> 01:23:20,480
and conduct

1934
01:23:24,550 --> 01:23:22,480
trade or something like that

1935
01:23:25,669 --> 01:23:24,560
and for me it would have to be with a

1936
01:23:28,550 --> 01:23:25,679
blockchain

1937
01:23:31,510 --> 01:23:28,560
it because it's a trustless verifiable

1938
01:23:33,430 --> 01:23:31,520
immutable protocol that's really geared

1939
01:23:34,950 --> 01:23:33,440
for two

1940
01:23:37,430 --> 01:23:34,960
civilizations

1941
01:23:40,070 --> 01:23:37,440
that don't have relationship to be able

1942
01:23:42,149 --> 01:23:40,080
to talk to each other so as i started

1943
01:23:43,350 --> 01:23:42,159
thinking about that i thought okay ufos

1944
01:23:46,070 --> 01:23:43,360
and crypto what else do they have in

1945
01:23:48,149 --> 01:23:46,080
common and i'm not the only one to think

1946
01:23:49,910 --> 01:23:48,159
about this you mentioned avi loeb at the

1947
01:23:52,629 --> 01:23:49,920
top of the show you know the harvard

1948
01:23:55,590 --> 01:23:52,639
astronomer who's tracking umuah

1949
01:23:56,870 --> 01:23:55,600
he spoke at a bitcoin conference last

1950
01:23:59,030 --> 01:23:56,880
friday

1951
01:24:01,910 --> 01:23:59,040
about the similarities he also sees

1952
01:24:04,390 --> 01:24:01,920
between bitcoin and crypto and i'm going

1953
01:24:07,270 --> 01:24:04,400
to be speaking with him on a panel

1954
01:24:11,270 --> 01:24:07,280
at the ufo disclosure symposium

1955
01:24:13,350 --> 01:24:11,280
in utah on may 27th or may 28th perhaps

1956
01:24:14,470 --> 01:24:13,360
um and so i'll have a lot to talk with

1957
01:24:15,750 --> 01:24:14,480
him about

1958
01:24:17,189 --> 01:24:15,760
one of the things he mentioned this

1959
01:24:18,709 --> 01:24:17,199
circles back to what you mentioned about

1960
01:24:20,950 --> 01:24:18,719
the government jimmy

1961
01:24:23,350 --> 01:24:20,960
is the kind of commonality in both

1962
01:24:26,149 --> 01:24:23,360
situations and the way i see it

1963
01:24:28,229 --> 01:24:26,159
in both ufos and crypto

1964
01:24:30,629 --> 01:24:28,239
the government to say the us government

1965
01:24:33,430 --> 01:24:30,639
is a centralized actor

1966
01:24:36,070 --> 01:24:33,440
we don't know really what they have

1967
01:24:39,830 --> 01:24:36,080
and we don't know what they'll say

1968
01:24:42,790 --> 01:24:39,840
in ufos what that means is we don't know

1969
01:24:45,750 --> 01:24:42,800
well there's not a universal consensus

1970
01:24:49,189 --> 01:24:45,760
on do they have alien bodies do they

1971
01:24:51,830 --> 01:24:49,199
have retrieved crashed saucers do they

1972
01:24:54,149 --> 01:24:51,840
have hybrid human aliens

1973
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there's not a definitive answer for that

1974
01:24:58,550 --> 01:24:55,120
and

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what will they disclose are we now in a

1976
01:25:04,790 --> 01:25:02,080
process of lowercase d disclosure with

1977
01:25:07,510 --> 01:25:04,800
an accelerating editorial schedule

1978
01:25:09,910 --> 01:25:07,520
priming the pump for a big signal

1979
01:25:11,510 --> 01:25:09,920
capital d disclosure landing on the

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white house lawn

1981
01:25:16,470 --> 01:25:14,239
i i don't know and frankly i no longer

1982
01:25:18,870 --> 01:25:16,480
give a rat's ass what the government has

1983
01:25:21,030 --> 01:25:18,880
to say they've been disinforming us for

1984
01:25:23,030 --> 01:25:21,040
decades and i don't feel like being

1985
01:25:25,510 --> 01:25:23,040
drawn along by them anymore

1986
01:25:27,669 --> 01:25:25,520
for with crypto

1987
01:25:29,270 --> 01:25:27,679
there are rumors and i i got something

1988
01:25:31,110 --> 01:25:29,280
to point to this

1989
01:25:33,750 --> 01:25:31,120
that maybe it was the cia who created

1990
01:25:35,830 --> 01:25:33,760
bitcoin or that the cia and other

1991
01:25:37,110 --> 01:25:35,840
agencies in the government have a lot of

1992
01:25:39,669 --> 01:25:37,120
bitcoin

1993
01:25:42,149 --> 01:25:39,679
that allow them to use off off-balance

1994
01:25:44,550 --> 01:25:42,159
sheet funds for black ops like iran

1995
01:25:46,790 --> 01:25:44,560
contra gate okay so we don't know what

1996
01:25:49,189 --> 01:25:46,800
they have and we don't know what they're

1997
01:25:51,669 --> 01:25:49,199
going to say and in the crypto lens that

1998
01:25:53,669 --> 01:25:51,679
comes down to regulation what will they

1999
01:25:54,470 --> 01:25:53,679
do how will they try to regulate this

2000
01:25:56,229 --> 01:25:54,480
because

2001
01:25:58,709 --> 01:25:56,239
the u.s government

2002
01:26:00,550 --> 01:25:58,719
should view cryptocurrency

2003
01:26:01,669 --> 01:26:00,560
as a threat to them because they've had

2004
01:26:03,110 --> 01:26:01,679
this

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01:26:05,350 --> 01:26:03,120
abusive

2006
01:26:08,149 --> 01:26:05,360
criminal monopoly

2007
01:26:10,709 --> 01:26:08,159
ability to steal value from all of us

2008
01:26:12,629 --> 01:26:10,719
for decades and that's coming to an end

2009
01:26:15,910 --> 01:26:12,639
with the sort of

2010
01:26:17,750 --> 01:26:15,920
disruptive cleansing effect of

2011
01:26:19,189 --> 01:26:17,760
democratizing

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01:26:20,629 --> 01:26:19,199
equitable

2013
01:26:22,709 --> 01:26:20,639
way to relate to money that is

2014
01:26:26,030 --> 01:26:22,719
cryptocurrency you know the the center

2015
01:26:27,830 --> 01:26:26,040
or the core ethos of cryptocurrency is

2016
01:26:29,910 --> 01:26:27,840
decentralization

2017
01:26:30,629 --> 01:26:29,920
you and i can conduct something between

2018
01:26:32,070 --> 01:26:30,639
us

2019
01:26:34,790 --> 01:26:32,080
even if we don't know each other and

2020
01:26:36,709 --> 01:26:34,800
there's protocols and smart contracts so

2021
01:26:38,950 --> 01:26:36,719
it can be a trustless protocol i don't

2022
01:26:40,790 --> 01:26:38,960
have to trust you and we can make sure

2023
01:26:43,990 --> 01:26:40,800
neither of us cheat each other it's

2024
01:26:47,590 --> 01:26:44,000
immutable it's instant it can be free

2025
01:26:50,470 --> 01:26:47,600
and it's math based and we don't need

2026
01:26:52,950 --> 01:26:50,480
an uncle sam or a bank of america

2027
01:26:55,830 --> 01:26:52,960
taking a big cut of that transaction

2028
01:26:59,110 --> 01:26:55,840
it's also the most democratizing

2029
01:27:02,390 --> 01:26:59,120
enfranchising bitcoin is already

2030
01:27:03,430 --> 01:27:02,400
the most widely distributed asset in the

2031
01:27:06,310 --> 01:27:03,440
world

2032
01:27:08,470 --> 01:27:06,320
anybody with a cell phone or laptop can

2033
01:27:09,750 --> 01:27:08,480
buy bitcoin it's like if you look back

2034
01:27:12,709 --> 01:27:09,760
100 years

2035
01:27:15,189 --> 01:27:12,719
the most pristine asset was probably a

2036
01:27:17,590 --> 01:27:15,199
block of manhattan real estate

2037
01:27:20,390 --> 01:27:17,600
well you had to be named cornelius of

2038
01:27:23,430 --> 01:27:20,400
vanderbilt to buy that now

2039
01:27:26,470 --> 01:27:23,440
a migrant worker in paraguay can buy

2040
01:27:29,510 --> 01:27:26,480
bitcoin for his family and and achieve

2041
01:27:31,830 --> 01:27:29,520
wealth in several years so you have this

2042
01:27:32,550 --> 01:27:31,840
ability for everybody to participate in

2043
01:27:33,830 --> 01:27:32,560
this

2044
01:27:37,189 --> 01:27:33,840
and

2045
01:27:39,510 --> 01:27:37,199
realizing the government is not a

2046
01:27:42,070 --> 01:27:39,520
faithful actor in the ufo field they

2047
01:27:43,350 --> 01:27:42,080
have their agenda and look i if i was

2048
01:27:46,629 --> 01:27:43,360
the government maybe i would not

2049
01:27:48,470 --> 01:27:46,639
disclose area 51 and things like that

2050
01:27:49,750 --> 01:27:48,480
but from a public point of view they're

2051
01:27:51,590 --> 01:27:49,760
not acting

2052
01:27:53,910 --> 01:27:51,600
the way we want we are you know chris

2053
01:27:55,189 --> 01:27:53,920
mellon and others are are forcing

2054
01:27:56,950 --> 01:27:55,199
information out of them and john

2055
01:27:59,030 --> 01:27:56,960
greenwald just got a big bunch of

2056
01:28:01,189 --> 01:27:59,040
information but they're doing it

2057
01:28:03,270 --> 01:28:01,199
unwillingly and same thing with

2058
01:28:05,270 --> 01:28:03,280
cryptocurrency they're trying to

2059
01:28:06,950 --> 01:28:05,280
regulate it in a way to protect their

2060
01:28:08,470 --> 01:28:06,960
corrupt monopoly

2061
01:28:10,870 --> 01:28:08,480
now

2062
01:28:12,470 --> 01:28:10,880
here's a connection between bitcoin and

2063
01:28:15,350 --> 01:28:12,480
ufos

2064
01:28:18,149 --> 01:28:15,360
how many bitcoins would you spend to get

2065
01:28:21,510 --> 01:28:19,350
whoa

2066
01:28:24,950 --> 01:28:21,520
jimmy you're making my mind burst

2067
01:28:26,550 --> 01:28:24,960
because i will never spend a bitcoin on

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01:28:28,629 --> 01:28:26,560
anything

2069
01:28:31,430 --> 01:28:28,639
what i tell people and so

2070
01:28:33,750 --> 01:28:31,440
you you know our our mutual friends

2071
01:28:36,470 --> 01:28:33,760
paola harris and jacques valet very well

2072
01:28:38,790 --> 01:28:36,480
sure i've had lots of conversation over

2073
01:28:40,629 --> 01:28:38,800
my whole life with both jacques and

2074
01:28:43,990 --> 01:28:40,639
paula and recently

2075
01:28:45,189 --> 01:28:44,000
i have been badgering them to buy

2076
01:28:48,149 --> 01:28:45,199
bitcoin

2077
01:28:49,830 --> 01:28:48,159
and and they now have and and jacques

2078
01:28:52,070 --> 01:28:49,840
has really plunged into it because he's

2079
01:28:53,910 --> 01:28:52,080
such a technically savvy guy

2080
01:28:55,590 --> 01:28:53,920
and he's asking about quantum decryption

2081
01:28:56,629 --> 01:28:55,600
and all this so they both now have

2082
01:28:58,550 --> 01:28:56,639
bitcoin

2083
01:29:01,189 --> 01:28:58,560
and

2084
01:29:03,590 --> 01:29:01,199
what i told them especially paola who

2085
01:29:05,590 --> 01:29:03,600
she's not that she just doesn't care so

2086
01:29:07,510 --> 01:29:05,600
much about it but if she thinks that i

2087
01:29:09,189 --> 01:29:07,520
feel it's a good safe thing to do then

2088
01:29:10,950 --> 01:29:09,199
she's happy to do that she's got more

2089
01:29:13,669 --> 01:29:10,960
important things than to learn about

2090
01:29:16,470 --> 01:29:13,679
other cryptocurrencies so what i tell

2091
01:29:18,310 --> 01:29:16,480
her and and jacques and others if you

2092
01:29:19,669 --> 01:29:18,320
don't have the interest or time to learn

2093
01:29:21,030 --> 01:29:19,679
about them all

2094
01:29:24,629 --> 01:29:21,040
jbb

2095
01:29:26,149 --> 01:29:24,639
just buy bitcoin now the other part is

2096
01:29:29,910 --> 01:29:26,159
nsb

2097
01:29:31,830 --> 01:29:29,920
never sell bitcoin

2098
01:29:33,669 --> 01:29:31,840
but never ever sell it oh okay so i'm

2099
01:29:35,910 --> 01:29:33,679
confused for a ride on an alien

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01:29:36,790 --> 01:29:35,920
spaceship do not sell your bitcoin so do

2101
01:29:42,470 --> 01:29:36,800
you

2102
01:29:44,790 --> 01:29:42,480
so now we get to sort of some of the nub

2103
01:29:46,470 --> 01:29:44,800
of it bitcoin is a currency that can be

2104
01:29:49,189 --> 01:29:46,480
used for transactions

2105
01:29:52,870 --> 01:29:49,199
the value i and many others see in it is

2106
01:29:53,669 --> 01:29:52,880
as a store of value

2107
01:29:55,270 --> 01:29:53,679
so

2108
01:29:57,270 --> 01:29:55,280
you know that's one of the principal

2109
01:30:00,310 --> 01:29:57,280
characteristics of money it's a medium

2110
01:30:02,950 --> 01:30:00,320
of exchange and it's a store of value

2111
01:30:06,149 --> 01:30:02,960
let's say you are in the middle ages a

2112
01:30:08,950 --> 01:30:06,159
leather tanner and you work all day what

2113
01:30:11,270 --> 01:30:08,960
would you like to receive value in

2114
01:30:13,590 --> 01:30:11,280
corn from the field which you can eat

2115
01:30:15,910 --> 01:30:13,600
but you can't do much with

2116
01:30:17,990 --> 01:30:15,920
a piece of silver is much better right

2117
01:30:19,750 --> 01:30:18,000
it's fungible you can translate it to

2118
01:30:21,270 --> 01:30:19,760
you can transfer it to somebody else you

2119
01:30:23,430 --> 01:30:21,280
can put it under your mattress and

2120
01:30:26,550 --> 01:30:23,440
you'll have value the next day

2121
01:30:28,870 --> 01:30:26,560
but with inflation eroding the value of

2122
01:30:33,189 --> 01:30:28,880
that dollars even in your bank account

2123
01:30:35,270 --> 01:30:33,199
someplace safe you will lose 10 or 20 of

2124
01:30:38,470 --> 01:30:35,280
your value by next year

2125
01:30:39,830 --> 01:30:38,480
bitcoin doesn't have that so it stores

2126
01:30:42,229 --> 01:30:39,840
your value

2127
01:30:45,750 --> 01:30:42,239
bitcoin in its history

2128
01:30:48,950 --> 01:30:45,760
is oh by the way the best appreciating

2129
01:30:52,149 --> 01:30:48,960
asset of all time but it's it's not

2130
01:30:53,990 --> 01:30:52,159
it's it doesn't have value until you

2131
01:30:57,350 --> 01:30:54,000
sell it

2132
01:30:59,189 --> 01:30:57,360
yes it does mr church because you can

2133
01:31:01,510 --> 01:30:59,199
borrow against it

2134
01:31:03,830 --> 01:31:01,520
and you can earn the equivalent of

2135
01:31:06,790 --> 01:31:03,840
interest with it

2136
01:31:09,510 --> 01:31:06,800
oh but that interest

2137
01:31:10,709 --> 01:31:09,520
is only if you sell it i you know no no

2138
01:31:12,229 --> 01:31:10,719
no what i'm saying like if you have

2139
01:31:14,390 --> 01:31:12,239
money in a bank account

2140
01:31:17,110 --> 01:31:14,400
bank of america is so generous they're

2141
01:31:18,870 --> 01:31:17,120
going to give you like 0.0001 interest

2142
01:31:21,189 --> 01:31:18,880
on the money in your account in a

2143
01:31:22,870 --> 01:31:21,199
savings account sure sure

2144
01:31:24,629 --> 01:31:22,880
with bitcoin you get a lot more you get

2145
01:31:25,830 --> 01:31:24,639
one two maybe three or four or five

2146
01:31:27,990 --> 01:31:25,840
percent

2147
01:31:29,430 --> 01:31:28,000
interest on your bitcoin without losing

2148
01:31:30,550 --> 01:31:29,440
your bitcoin

2149
01:31:33,030 --> 01:31:30,560
okay

2150
01:31:35,350 --> 01:31:33,040
but here and i just blew past the

2151
01:31:38,229 --> 01:31:35,360
commercial i'm just going to say this in

2152
01:31:42,709 --> 01:31:41,189
i have a drawer full of dollar bills

2153
01:31:46,229 --> 01:31:42,719
right 20s

2154
01:31:48,470 --> 01:31:46,239
ones whatever is that door lock and and

2155
01:31:50,550 --> 01:31:48,480
it's not worth anything until i spend it

2156
01:31:52,870 --> 01:31:50,560
it's just paper

2157
01:31:54,709 --> 01:31:52,880
and it's is it it's the same thing with

2158
01:31:56,070 --> 01:31:54,719
bitcoin you could have a thousand

2159
01:31:58,149 --> 01:31:56,080
bitcoins

2160
01:32:00,310 --> 01:31:58,159
but it's not worth anything unless you

2161
01:32:03,189 --> 01:32:00,320
either exchange it or spend it on

2162
01:32:05,030 --> 01:32:03,199
something no it maintains its value and

2163
01:32:06,790 --> 01:32:05,040
that value is expressed in whenever you

2164
01:32:09,510 --> 01:32:06,800
make a transaction but it has not lost

2165
01:32:11,430 --> 01:32:09,520
its value the dollars in your drawer are

2166
01:32:13,189 --> 01:32:11,440
going to be worth less a year from now

2167
01:32:14,870 --> 01:32:13,199
than they are now but they haven't lost

2168
01:32:17,270 --> 01:32:14,880
their value because it has stored that

2169
01:32:20,070 --> 01:32:17,280
value okay i'll give you another example

2170
01:32:21,510 --> 01:32:20,080
i have a drawer full of gold bars

2171
01:32:23,510 --> 01:32:21,520
and i do

2172
01:32:24,390 --> 01:32:23,520
but they're just gold bars i can't eat

2173
01:32:26,870 --> 01:32:24,400
them

2174
01:32:28,870 --> 01:32:26,880
the only way they have value is if i do

2175
01:32:30,709 --> 01:32:28,880
something with them

2176
01:32:32,790 --> 01:32:30,719
right but they don't lose their value

2177
01:32:35,350 --> 01:32:32,800
between when you purchase them and when

2178
01:32:37,110 --> 01:32:35,360
you sell them they they maintain that

2179
01:32:38,310 --> 01:32:37,120
value you're just not able to do

2180
01:32:40,470 --> 01:32:38,320
anything with them until you do the

2181
01:32:43,270 --> 01:32:40,480
transaction see but that's why gold and

2182
01:32:45,510 --> 01:32:43,280
dollars and bitcoin are what you put

2183
01:32:47,590 --> 01:32:45,520
your value in as opposed to something

2184
01:32:49,270 --> 01:32:47,600
perishable like a bushel of corn right

2185
01:32:51,189 --> 01:32:49,280
right and that's why you're the smart

2186
01:32:54,390 --> 01:32:51,199
guy in the room and i'm just a radio

2187
01:32:56,790 --> 01:32:54,400
show host this is fade to black my guest

2188
01:32:58,229 --> 01:32:56,800
tonight paul heineck i can try to be

2189
01:32:59,669 --> 01:32:58,239
devil's advocate but i'm not going to

2190
01:33:01,830 --> 01:32:59,679
get anywhere

2191
01:33:04,629 --> 01:33:01,840
we'll be right back after this short

2192
01:33:12,630 --> 01:33:04,639
break it is bitcoin and ufos tonight

2193
01:33:12,640 --> 01:33:23,510
[Music]

2194
01:33:28,810 --> 01:33:26,629
way out here we listen to jimmy church

2195
01:33:31,430 --> 01:33:28,820
you're listening to fade to black

2196
01:33:33,590 --> 01:33:31,440
[Applause]

2197
01:33:40,170 --> 01:33:33,600
you're listening to jimmy church and

2198
01:33:40,180 --> 01:33:45,510
[Applause]

2199
01:33:45,520 --> 01:33:53,590
jimmy church radio

2200
01:33:59,910 --> 01:33:55,430
this is jimmy church of fade to black

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01:34:02,629 --> 01:33:59,920
and this year june 18 2022

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the disclosure fest foundation presents

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historic park in downtown los angeles

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california right next to chinatown i'm

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hosting the event again this year with

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music performances by trevor hall the

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desert dwellers poor on ghee and many

2211
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many more on four separate stages

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there's 16 stages in total over 30 acres

2213
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in downtown los angeles with vendors and

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tents and presentations and workshops

2215
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with billy carson adam apollo lori

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2217
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david palmer and many many more it's all

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simple to do just go to

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disclosurefest.org for all of your

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again

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disclosurefest.org

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[Music]

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do you want to be an official fate or

2226
01:35:08,470 --> 01:35:06,239
not of course you do this is jimmy

2227
01:35:10,669 --> 01:35:08,480
churchill fade to black just go to our

2228
01:35:12,229 --> 01:35:10,679
membership section at

2229
01:35:14,229 --> 01:35:12,239
jimmychurchradio.com

2230
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vader knots when you think about the

2231
01:35:17,910 --> 01:35:16,080
future of our country and where we're

2232
01:35:21,030 --> 01:35:17,920
headed do you wonder about the food

2233
01:35:23,189 --> 01:35:21,040
supply i do disruptions in the food

2234
01:35:25,990 --> 01:35:23,199
supply chain could be disastrous and

2235
01:35:27,990 --> 01:35:26,000
they usually occur with little warning

2236
01:35:30,950 --> 01:35:28,000
that's why the smartest thing you can do

2237
01:35:33,990 --> 01:35:30,960
today is to stockpile emergency food

2238
01:35:36,709 --> 01:35:34,000
water and other essentials i personally

2239
01:35:39,030 --> 01:35:36,719
recommend my patriot supply they're the

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nation's largest emergency preparedness

2241
01:35:44,070 --> 01:35:41,600
company serving millions of customers

2242
01:35:46,790 --> 01:35:44,080
for more than a decade in fact they're

2243
01:35:49,590 --> 01:35:46,800
the only source my family trusts for our

2244
01:35:52,149 --> 01:35:49,600
preparedness plan you should too

2245
01:35:54,390 --> 01:35:52,159
right now save twenty percent off a full

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host jimmy church tonight paul heineck

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01:38:02,790 --> 01:37:59,360
is with us we're talking about bitcoin

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01:38:04,629 --> 01:38:02,800
and ufos the connections and

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01:38:07,510 --> 01:38:04,639
uh okay i

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01:38:09,669 --> 01:38:07,520
i've got a couple of fundamental just

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01:38:12,149 --> 01:38:09,679
basic questions

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01:38:14,470 --> 01:38:12,159
um and we'll just make this quick

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01:38:15,669 --> 01:38:14,480
because i want to get to uh connection

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01:38:16,790 --> 01:38:15,679
number two

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01:38:17,830 --> 01:38:16,800
um

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01:38:19,590 --> 01:38:17,840
is this

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01:38:22,870 --> 01:38:19,600
so

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01:38:25,030 --> 01:38:22,880
here's my bitcoin wallet right

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01:38:27,669 --> 01:38:25,040
and i hear the recommendations are to

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01:38:28,870 --> 01:38:27,679
put your wallet on a usb drive and not

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your computer

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01:38:32,229 --> 01:38:30,400
but i think you should put your wallet

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01:38:34,229 --> 01:38:32,239
in the same drawer as your cash and the

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01:38:36,790 --> 01:38:34,239
same drawer as your gold and leave your

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01:38:40,629 --> 01:38:36,800
door unlocked tonight until about 11 p.m

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01:38:48,470 --> 01:38:43,990
and here's the deal so uh solar flare

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01:38:51,910 --> 01:38:48,480
some emp whatever and this gets erased

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01:38:53,189 --> 01:38:51,920
am i am i am i ass out

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01:38:55,910 --> 01:38:53,199
uh

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01:38:59,510 --> 01:38:55,920
that's a colorful phrase i think you are

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01:39:01,910 --> 01:38:59,520
not ass out because uh in the earlier

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01:39:03,350 --> 01:39:01,920
days it used to be hardware dependent

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01:39:04,709 --> 01:39:03,360
and you may have heard that story about

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01:39:07,510 --> 01:39:04,719
the guy who's trying to get his hard

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01:39:09,350 --> 01:39:07,520
drive out of the dump in england now

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01:39:11,750 --> 01:39:09,360
it's your passphrase

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01:39:13,669 --> 01:39:11,760
and the hardware is not incidental you

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01:39:16,870 --> 01:39:13,679
don't want to lose it but it's the

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01:39:19,669 --> 01:39:16,880
passphrase either 12 words or 24 words

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01:39:21,830 --> 01:39:19,679
and that's the key not your password not

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01:39:24,229 --> 01:39:21,840
that's your that's literally your key

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01:39:27,350 --> 01:39:24,239
not your key not your coins people in

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01:39:29,910 --> 01:39:27,360
crypto say so you can lose that device

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01:39:32,790 --> 01:39:29,920
and you can recover it because it's not

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01:39:34,629 --> 01:39:32,800
really physically on there it's the pass

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01:39:36,470 --> 01:39:34,639
phrase that's important and you can have

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01:39:38,470 --> 01:39:36,480
that on a piece of paper you don't want

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01:39:40,390 --> 01:39:38,480
to store that electronically have it on

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01:39:43,270 --> 01:39:40,400
a piece of paper hidden in your house

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01:39:44,950 --> 01:39:43,280
in a safe deposit box uh you know at

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01:39:48,550 --> 01:39:44,960
your mom's house under the cookie jar

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01:39:50,950 --> 01:39:48,560
etc or committed to your memory

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01:39:52,709 --> 01:39:50,960
sure and with a hypnosis on call a

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01:39:54,950 --> 01:39:52,719
hypnotist on call

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01:39:57,990 --> 01:39:54,960
your past phrase could be the first two

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01:40:00,629 --> 01:39:58,000
verses uh for stairway to heaven

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01:40:02,950 --> 01:40:00,639
no your passphrase uh luckily is not

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01:40:05,030 --> 01:40:02,960
allowed to be the first verse of a song

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01:40:06,470 --> 01:40:05,040
it's given to you randomly even a song

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01:40:08,390 --> 01:40:06,480
is memorable stairway to heaven my

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01:40:11,270 --> 01:40:08,400
friend oh

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01:40:14,470 --> 01:40:11,280
okay so you couldn't well you could

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01:40:16,629 --> 01:40:14,480
er yuri geller could remember it maybe

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01:40:18,870 --> 01:40:16,639
but i i get what you're saying okay so

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01:40:22,790 --> 01:40:18,880
it's a random generated

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01:40:23,750 --> 01:40:22,800
uh uh 24 word passphrase yeah and that's

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01:40:25,350 --> 01:40:23,760
you know it brings up one of the

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01:40:26,470 --> 01:40:25,360
important concepts to understand with

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01:40:29,270 --> 01:40:26,480
crypto

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01:40:31,830 --> 01:40:29,280
is that you know within a centralized

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01:40:33,830 --> 01:40:31,840
system that's corrupt you know the about

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01:40:36,390 --> 01:40:33,840
two billion people in the world are

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01:40:38,149 --> 01:40:36,400
unbanked means they're effectively shut

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01:40:40,149 --> 01:40:38,159
out of the financial system correct

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01:40:42,790 --> 01:40:40,159
another few billion are preyed upon by

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01:40:45,030 --> 01:40:42,800
usurious credit card companies etc

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01:40:46,229 --> 01:40:45,040
this is the centralized financial system

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01:40:48,629 --> 01:40:46,239
we live in

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01:40:51,510 --> 01:40:48,639
the sort of convenience for us is that

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01:40:54,229 --> 01:40:51,520
we have a bank if something goes wrong

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01:40:56,310 --> 01:40:54,239
we have someone's throat we can choke

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01:40:59,590 --> 01:40:56,320
you know there's fdic insurance and all

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01:41:02,790 --> 01:40:59,600
that we're not responsible well

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01:41:04,709 --> 01:41:02,800
with crypto you're not paying those

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01:41:06,629 --> 01:41:04,719
for that bank that gives you bad service

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01:41:09,270 --> 01:41:06,639
you're getting much better interest you

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01:41:12,310 --> 01:41:09,280
don't have to wait to talk with them

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01:41:14,709 --> 01:41:12,320
but you also have more responsibility

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01:41:16,790 --> 01:41:14,719
now there's a burgeoning industry of

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01:41:19,270 --> 01:41:16,800
companies that would act similar to a

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01:41:21,430 --> 01:41:19,280
bank and take over that responsibility

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01:41:23,669 --> 01:41:21,440
but by and large the philosophical

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01:41:26,790 --> 01:41:23,679
difference is if you don't have this

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01:41:29,030 --> 01:41:26,800
centralized layer in between you and who

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01:41:30,229 --> 01:41:29,040
you'd like to conduct a transaction with

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01:41:32,550 --> 01:41:30,239
you're going to bear more of the

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01:41:34,709 --> 01:41:32,560
responsibility and that comes down to

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01:41:36,149 --> 01:41:34,719
like a passphrase and it's getting

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01:41:38,870 --> 01:41:36,159
easier and easier

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01:41:41,270 --> 01:41:38,880
for us individuals to be comfortable

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01:41:44,390 --> 01:41:41,280
with that responsibility and not lose

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01:41:46,229 --> 01:41:44,400
bitcoin or other coins that we have now

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01:41:48,390 --> 01:41:46,239
and you had said earlier i want to move

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01:41:51,430 --> 01:41:48,400
on to ufos but um

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01:41:52,709 --> 01:41:51,440
you said that it will always hold its

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01:41:55,189 --> 01:41:52,719
value

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01:41:57,590 --> 01:41:55,199
but it was at like 60 grand a few months

2375
01:42:00,550 --> 01:41:57,600
ago and now it's half of that

2376
01:42:02,229 --> 01:42:00,560
so anybody that came in at 60 grand

2377
01:42:04,870 --> 01:42:02,239
uh might

2378
01:42:07,270 --> 01:42:04,880
might feel a little bit differently

2379
01:42:10,070 --> 01:42:07,280
might feel a bit queasy sure um there's

2380
01:42:12,950 --> 01:42:10,080
not one person in the history of bitcoin

2381
01:42:16,390 --> 01:42:12,960
who has purchased bitcoin

2382
01:42:18,790 --> 01:42:16,400
and not sold it who has

2383
01:42:21,109 --> 01:42:18,800
realized to regret it some people bought

2384
01:42:23,030 --> 01:42:21,119
it at 64. i bought someone 60 000 also

2385
01:42:24,629 --> 01:42:23,040
and it's come down to 40 000.

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01:42:26,629 --> 01:42:24,639
if you zoom out

2387
01:42:29,430 --> 01:42:26,639
like if you look at stocks over the last

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01:42:31,830 --> 01:42:29,440
200 years you can't even find the great

2389
01:42:33,030 --> 01:42:31,840
depression it's a tiny blip

2390
01:42:34,550 --> 01:42:33,040
bitcoin

2391
01:42:36,149 --> 01:42:34,560
started off

2392
01:42:38,390 --> 01:42:36,159
the first commercial transaction for

2393
01:42:39,350 --> 01:42:38,400
bitcoin is what they call bitcoin pizza

2394
01:42:43,350 --> 01:42:39,360
day

2395
01:42:45,590 --> 01:42:43,360
and that was on may 22nd 2010 a guy

2396
01:42:48,149 --> 01:42:45,600
named laszlo hagnex bought two pizzas

2397
01:42:51,430 --> 01:42:48,159
for 10 000 bitcoin

2398
01:42:54,149 --> 01:42:51,440
at that point he set the market rate or

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01:42:56,390 --> 01:42:54,159
the the price per coin

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01:42:59,910 --> 01:42:56,400
at .02

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01:43:02,310 --> 01:42:59,920
of a penny for bitcoin per penny

2402
01:43:03,990 --> 01:43:02,320
so yes in the last year which has been

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01:43:05,990 --> 01:43:04,000
kind of a tumultuous year and bitcoin is

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01:43:09,189 --> 01:43:06,000
still viewed as i said as a somewhat of

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01:43:13,030 --> 01:43:09,199
a risk on asset it's gone down

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01:43:16,149 --> 01:43:13,040
but it's gone up from a quarter of a

2407
01:43:17,109 --> 01:43:16,159
penny to 40 000

2408
01:43:19,510 --> 01:43:17,119
today

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01:43:22,149 --> 01:43:19,520
there is nothing in history that's had

2410
01:43:24,790 --> 01:43:22,159
that kind of appreciation and for people

2411
01:43:27,109 --> 01:43:24,800
who think oh i missed out is too late

2412
01:43:28,629 --> 01:43:27,119
fidelity investments hardly a

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01:43:30,790 --> 01:43:28,639
fly-by-night

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01:43:33,270 --> 01:43:30,800
cryptocurrency operation

2415
01:43:34,870 --> 01:43:33,280
has come out and publicly predicted and

2416
01:43:36,310 --> 01:43:34,880
you can look this up

2417
01:43:40,390 --> 01:43:36,320
they predict

2418
01:43:41,669 --> 01:43:40,400
in 16 years in the year 2038 that one

2419
01:43:45,590 --> 01:43:41,679
bitcoin

2420
01:43:47,109 --> 01:43:45,600
will be worth a billion dollars now that

2421
01:43:50,229 --> 01:43:47,119
may or may not happen

2422
01:43:53,990 --> 01:43:50,239
but fidelity has never come out

2423
01:43:57,910 --> 01:43:54,000
and made any kind of prediction

2424
01:44:00,070 --> 01:43:57,920
for any asset ever anything like that

2425
01:44:02,790 --> 01:44:00,080
and yet they do for bitcoin and they

2426
01:44:05,189 --> 01:44:02,800
already have said bitcoin is a superior

2427
01:44:07,109 --> 01:44:05,199
currency to the dollar so for a lot of

2428
01:44:08,870 --> 01:44:07,119
people who think okay i understand

2429
01:44:10,870 --> 01:44:08,880
bitcoin has had this amazing run if i

2430
01:44:13,750 --> 01:44:10,880
had bought you know 10 of them

2431
01:44:16,629 --> 01:44:13,760
25 years or 10 years ago i'd be rich

2432
01:44:18,470 --> 01:44:16,639
it's the best time now because bitcoin

2433
01:44:19,750 --> 01:44:18,480
was risky before it's hard to maintain

2434
01:44:22,629 --> 01:44:19,760
you could lose it like you said on a

2435
01:44:24,629 --> 01:44:22,639
wall et cetera it's not risky now if you

2436
01:44:26,870 --> 01:44:24,639
have a long-term point of view and if

2437
01:44:29,189 --> 01:44:26,880
you never sell it

2438
01:44:31,430 --> 01:44:29,199
it would take less than one bitcoin now

2439
01:44:33,590 --> 01:44:31,440
i believe not financial advice do your

2440
01:44:35,590 --> 01:44:33,600
own research to become independently

2441
01:44:37,830 --> 01:44:35,600
wealthy within a matter of years that's

2442
01:44:41,109 --> 01:44:37,840
how bullish i am on bitcoin now you

2443
01:44:42,229 --> 01:44:41,119
mentioned earlier about uh

2444
01:44:44,470 --> 01:44:42,239
uh

2445
01:44:45,990 --> 01:44:44,480
communication with et through the

2446
01:44:47,430 --> 01:44:46,000
blockchain

2447
01:44:48,790 --> 01:44:47,440
um

2448
01:44:52,149 --> 01:44:48,800
why

2449
01:44:54,390 --> 01:44:52,159
interesting we'll get into what the

2450
01:44:55,669 --> 01:44:54,400
blockchain is but why would you suggest

2451
01:44:56,550 --> 01:44:55,679
that

2452
01:44:58,229 --> 01:44:56,560
well

2453
01:45:00,790 --> 01:44:58,239
so let's say

2454
01:45:02,629 --> 01:45:00,800
that you are a different

2455
01:45:03,350 --> 01:45:02,639
planet and you've got a civilization

2456
01:45:04,790 --> 01:45:03,360
there

2457
01:45:06,550 --> 01:45:04,800
and you want to communicate with us

2458
01:45:08,870 --> 01:45:06,560
there's a whole lot of things and i you

2459
01:45:10,950 --> 01:45:08,880
know stephen wolfram did a really good

2460
01:45:13,350 --> 01:45:10,960
approach to this in the movie arrival

2461
01:45:14,950 --> 01:45:13,360
right with a non-linear language you

2462
01:45:17,270 --> 01:45:14,960
know we have to take in so many things

2463
01:45:20,070 --> 01:45:17,280
what is communication and so much of it

2464
01:45:22,709 --> 01:45:20,080
is sort of social context and there's so

2465
01:45:25,830 --> 01:45:22,719
many issues involved as you know desiree

2466
01:45:28,390 --> 01:45:25,840
and jj hertak are really steeped in in

2467
01:45:30,709 --> 01:45:28,400
terms of what is consciousness and what

2468
01:45:32,470 --> 01:45:30,719
would communicate a conversation and

2469
01:45:33,910 --> 01:45:32,480
would we even know that that other

2470
01:45:35,990 --> 01:45:33,920
entity is conscious

2471
01:45:37,990 --> 01:45:36,000
but it needs to boil down to some kind

2472
01:45:40,709 --> 01:45:38,000
of handshake some kind of

2473
01:45:43,590 --> 01:45:40,719
interstellar api if you will that allows

2474
01:45:46,149 --> 01:45:43,600
us to have beyond the same frequency and

2475
01:45:47,990 --> 01:45:46,159
something some similar semantic

2476
01:45:50,870 --> 01:45:48,000
construction

2477
01:45:52,550 --> 01:45:50,880
a blockchain is

2478
01:45:55,030 --> 01:45:52,560
you know bitcoin is a currency that

2479
01:45:57,669 --> 01:45:55,040
resides on a blockchain the blockchain

2480
01:46:00,390 --> 01:45:57,679
is a distributed ledger it's a database

2481
01:46:02,790 --> 01:46:00,400
it's a database that's shared over in

2482
01:46:05,030 --> 01:46:02,800
some cases millions of computers that

2483
01:46:07,830 --> 01:46:05,040
can't be tampered with by this or that

2484
01:46:10,550 --> 01:46:07,840
government it's a redundant way of

2485
01:46:13,350 --> 01:46:10,560
storing information that's immutable and

2486
01:46:16,149 --> 01:46:13,360
trustless and it's revolutionary in what

2487
01:46:18,950 --> 01:46:16,159
it does that way so for another

2488
01:46:20,149 --> 01:46:18,960
civilization to communicate with us

2489
01:46:23,270 --> 01:46:20,159
to

2490
01:46:25,109 --> 01:46:23,280
point where you have

2491
01:46:26,709 --> 01:46:25,119
conversations that are on record that

2492
01:46:29,430 --> 01:46:26,719
can't be changed or if you want to

2493
01:46:31,430 --> 01:46:29,440
transact value in some way

2494
01:46:33,109 --> 01:46:31,440
it's kind of like you know a richard

2495
01:46:34,310 --> 01:46:33,119
dawkins has the phrase convergent

2496
01:46:36,709 --> 01:46:34,320
evolution

2497
01:46:38,830 --> 01:46:36,719
that means that if you've got roughly

2498
01:46:41,669 --> 01:46:38,840
similar environmental

2499
01:46:43,830 --> 01:46:41,679
situations organisms will probably

2500
01:46:45,750 --> 01:46:43,840
evolve to be roughly similar because

2501
01:46:46,709 --> 01:46:45,760
it's evolutionary advantageous to do

2502
01:46:49,189 --> 01:46:46,719
that

2503
01:46:50,390 --> 01:46:49,199
here i call this convergent blockchain

2504
01:46:51,430 --> 01:46:50,400
evolution

2505
01:46:53,350 --> 01:46:51,440
that

2506
01:46:54,950 --> 01:46:53,360
every civilization

2507
01:46:56,790 --> 01:46:54,960
if they have

2508
01:46:58,550 --> 01:46:56,800
and i'm i'm leaning on a lot of things i

2509
01:47:00,870 --> 01:46:58,560
found online for this

2510
01:47:04,070 --> 01:47:00,880
that if they have

2511
01:47:06,629 --> 01:47:04,080
some characteristics of

2512
01:47:09,189 --> 01:47:06,639
they have a society with individuals who

2513
01:47:11,590 --> 01:47:09,199
have rational self-interest if they have

2514
01:47:13,270 --> 01:47:11,600
finite resources and they don't have

2515
01:47:14,709 --> 01:47:13,280
magic let's say they have to obey

2516
01:47:16,229 --> 01:47:14,719
physical laws

2517
01:47:19,189 --> 01:47:16,239
i believe

2518
01:47:21,030 --> 01:47:19,199
they will develop a blockchain

2519
01:47:23,510 --> 01:47:21,040
and have currencies on top of that

2520
01:47:26,070 --> 01:47:23,520
because that's the way that you get past

2521
01:47:28,790 --> 01:47:26,080
the influence of any government and the

2522
01:47:31,270 --> 01:47:28,800
abuses of that and that allows everybody

2523
01:47:33,910 --> 01:47:31,280
to have trust in the currency because

2524
01:47:36,629 --> 01:47:33,920
nobody can change it nobody can inflate

2525
01:47:39,350 --> 01:47:36,639
it past the contract so i think it's

2526
01:47:41,430 --> 01:47:39,360
inevitable thing and to me it's kind of

2527
01:47:43,910 --> 01:47:41,440
like the corollary to

2528
01:47:47,030 --> 01:47:43,920
a lot of people in the ufo field are

2529
01:47:50,229 --> 01:47:47,040
concerned about nuclear energy and

2530
01:47:52,629 --> 01:47:50,239
aliens seeing that and being afraid

2531
01:47:54,950 --> 01:47:52,639
warning us etc and and jacques and

2532
01:47:56,470 --> 01:47:54,960
paulo's book is a great example of how

2533
01:47:58,790 --> 01:47:56,480
they weave in

2534
01:48:00,390 --> 01:47:58,800
nuclear testing at the trinity site with

2535
01:48:03,109 --> 01:48:00,400
the sightings nearby

2536
01:48:05,030 --> 01:48:03,119
so you can say that aliens are watching

2537
01:48:07,189 --> 01:48:05,040
this that's the warning sign that we're

2538
01:48:09,750 --> 01:48:07,199
a danger to ourselves and others

2539
01:48:12,790 --> 01:48:09,760
the corollary to that i think is that

2540
01:48:17,109 --> 01:48:12,800
aliens may be monitoring

2541
01:48:19,350 --> 01:48:17,119
for specific tell-tale electronic uh

2542
01:48:22,070 --> 01:48:19,360
indications that we're communicating

2543
01:48:23,669 --> 01:48:22,080
with a blockchain because they may feel

2544
01:48:26,229 --> 01:48:23,679
that a blockchain

2545
01:48:28,709 --> 01:48:26,239
the presence of a blockchain indicates

2546
01:48:31,669 --> 01:48:28,719
that a culture has advanced to a

2547
01:48:34,149 --> 01:48:31,679
sufficient state to be able to interface

2548
01:48:36,709 --> 01:48:34,159
with an outside culture

2549
01:48:38,629 --> 01:48:36,719
now the blockchain which i always

2550
01:48:40,229 --> 01:48:38,639
envision kind of like the akashic

2551
01:48:43,270 --> 01:48:40,239
records right it's

2552
01:48:45,189 --> 01:48:43,280
it's it's it's something out there that

2553
01:48:49,750 --> 01:48:45,199
i try to visualize

2554
01:48:52,550 --> 01:48:49,760
and i visualize it like a secure

2555
01:48:54,149 --> 01:48:52,560
locked down excel spreadsheet that

2556
01:48:56,709 --> 01:48:54,159
doesn't end

2557
01:48:57,590 --> 01:48:56,719
is that a good way to kind of visualize

2558
01:49:00,070 --> 01:48:57,600
this

2559
01:49:02,470 --> 01:49:00,080
it's just entries it's entries entries

2560
01:49:05,030 --> 01:49:02,480
and you know and there's always

2561
01:49:07,430 --> 01:49:05,040
the new entry at the bottom

2562
01:49:09,189 --> 01:49:07,440
yeah um i do my best thinking in excel

2563
01:49:11,030 --> 01:49:09,199
so i'm with you there and yeah it's just

2564
01:49:12,229 --> 01:49:11,040
a block every

2565
01:49:15,430 --> 01:49:12,239
um

2566
01:49:18,310 --> 01:49:15,440
new bit of information is a block and

2567
01:49:21,109 --> 01:49:18,320
every block gets appended to the end of

2568
01:49:23,589 --> 01:49:21,119
the previous chain so you have blocks

2569
01:49:25,189 --> 01:49:23,599
appearing on the chain that's all it is

2570
01:49:26,790 --> 01:49:25,199
and so that every

2571
01:49:28,470 --> 01:49:26,800
everybody there are 100 million

2572
01:49:30,550 --> 01:49:28,480
computers now that have blockchain or

2573
01:49:34,229 --> 01:49:30,560
they have bitcoin accounts every one of

2574
01:49:35,910 --> 01:49:34,239
them has the complete and total history

2575
01:49:38,070 --> 01:49:35,920
of bitcoin transactions on their

2576
01:49:38,950 --> 01:49:38,080
computer which is why nobody can change

2577
01:49:40,550 --> 01:49:38,960
it

2578
01:49:41,669 --> 01:49:40,560
because everybody sees the same

2579
01:49:46,229 --> 01:49:41,679
information

2580
01:49:48,470 --> 01:49:46,239
that's right now how how big is that now

2581
01:49:51,750 --> 01:49:48,480
i mean that's got to be crazy so

2582
01:49:54,310 --> 01:49:51,760
in every mining operation

2583
01:49:57,350 --> 01:49:54,320
everything that is going on that is part

2584
01:49:59,589 --> 01:49:57,360
of the blockchain right it has to be

2585
01:50:00,709 --> 01:49:59,599
yes and and that they're stored on nodes

2586
01:50:02,070 --> 01:50:00,719
and

2587
01:50:03,270 --> 01:50:02,080
luckily

2588
01:50:05,589 --> 01:50:03,280
it's getting bigger and bigger and it's

2589
01:50:07,750 --> 01:50:05,599
going to become a larger issue but

2590
01:50:10,070 --> 01:50:07,760
this type of data is not like visually

2591
01:50:12,470 --> 01:50:10,080
rich or music so the footprint of the

2592
01:50:15,350 --> 01:50:12,480
data is not enormous but it's getting

2593
01:50:18,790 --> 01:50:15,360
larger right right and

2594
01:50:21,589 --> 01:50:18,800
going back to the communication with e.t

2595
01:50:22,870 --> 01:50:21,599
uh again this is a visualization on my

2596
01:50:25,030 --> 01:50:22,880
part but

2597
01:50:27,109 --> 01:50:25,040
uh ones and zeros

2598
01:50:29,750 --> 01:50:27,119
and i say that because positive and

2599
01:50:33,109 --> 01:50:29,760
negative on and off that's the

2600
01:50:35,030 --> 01:50:33,119
fundamental basis of of the universe in

2601
01:50:37,669 --> 01:50:35,040
general electricity

2602
01:50:39,109 --> 01:50:37,679
off on positive negative

2603
01:50:41,990 --> 01:50:39,119
binary

2604
01:50:44,870 --> 01:50:42,000
and that communication

2605
01:50:47,669 --> 01:50:44,880
when you break it down to its basics is

2606
01:50:49,669 --> 01:50:47,679
as fundamental as it gets on or off one

2607
01:50:55,430 --> 01:50:49,679
or zero positive negative

2608
01:50:59,750 --> 01:50:57,109
absolutely

2609
01:51:02,149 --> 01:50:59,760
more likely than not they've also

2610
01:51:05,109 --> 01:51:02,159
sort of converged on a binary

2611
01:51:06,470 --> 01:51:05,119
communication system and if not

2612
01:51:08,550 --> 01:51:06,480
they've used something radically

2613
01:51:10,790 --> 01:51:08,560
different but if they're communicating

2614
01:51:13,189 --> 01:51:10,800
with us unless we've gone there they're

2615
01:51:15,270 --> 01:51:13,199
far more advanced than we are and i

2616
01:51:17,750 --> 01:51:15,280
can't imagine that they wouldn't be able

2617
01:51:20,310 --> 01:51:17,760
to piece together oh these little cute

2618
01:51:22,229 --> 01:51:20,320
humans are binary how adorable and

2619
01:51:27,109 --> 01:51:22,239
figure it out overnight

2620
01:51:30,229 --> 01:51:27,119
now okay let's say the communication

2621
01:51:33,830 --> 01:51:30,239
uh the the internet pipeline is

2622
01:51:35,830 --> 01:51:33,840
connected between e.t and us

2623
01:51:37,270 --> 01:51:35,840
who goes first

2624
01:51:39,430 --> 01:51:37,280
do we

2625
01:51:40,950 --> 01:51:39,440
you know what i mean who sends the first

2626
01:51:43,430 --> 01:51:40,960
message and

2627
01:51:46,550 --> 01:51:43,440
and would we be able to understand i

2628
01:51:49,589 --> 01:51:46,560
like the arrival comparison by the way

2629
01:51:52,629 --> 01:51:49,599
because somebody's got to go first and

2630
01:51:54,390 --> 01:51:52,639
what would we send them

2631
01:51:56,950 --> 01:51:54,400
to establish

2632
01:51:58,950 --> 01:51:56,960
the basics of of of what we're talking

2633
01:52:00,550 --> 01:51:58,960
about of language and the same thing

2634
01:52:03,189 --> 01:52:00,560
would have to come from them if they

2635
01:52:04,790 --> 01:52:03,199
went first well that's it's a

2636
01:52:07,750 --> 01:52:04,800
challenging thing so if you go back to

2637
01:52:10,709 --> 01:52:07,760
the pioneer plaque i think in 1972

2638
01:52:13,589 --> 01:52:10,719
or so the one on voyager designed by

2639
01:52:15,430 --> 01:52:13,599
conceived by carl sagan and frank drake

2640
01:52:17,589 --> 01:52:15,440
and designed by carl sagan's wife at the

2641
01:52:19,430 --> 01:52:17,599
time who's an artist and it's got you

2642
01:52:21,589 --> 01:52:19,440
can look it up pioneer plaque and it's

2643
01:52:24,229 --> 01:52:21,599
got the line drawing of a naked man and

2644
01:52:25,430 --> 01:52:24,239
woman yeah we did pornography our first

2645
01:52:27,189 --> 01:52:25,440
communication

2646
01:52:29,830 --> 01:52:27,199
right and it's got like a star map and

2647
01:52:32,070 --> 01:52:29,840
so i saw a joke and i made a joke based

2648
01:52:33,270 --> 01:52:32,080
on this i made a cartoon that basically

2649
01:52:35,030 --> 01:52:33,280
shows this

2650
01:52:37,430 --> 01:52:35,040
and on top it's got a picture of an

2651
01:52:39,589 --> 01:52:37,440
angry alien that says hey humans would

2652
01:52:41,270 --> 01:52:39,599
you knock it off with the unsolicited

2653
01:52:44,470 --> 01:52:41,280
naked pictures and directions to your

2654
01:52:45,589 --> 01:52:44,480
house it's creepy signed the aliens

2655
01:52:47,350 --> 01:52:45,599
so

2656
01:52:48,950 --> 01:52:47,360
it's very difficult because we don't

2657
01:52:51,270 --> 01:52:48,960
know what their culture would be like or

2658
01:52:53,350 --> 01:52:51,280
their norms something that could seem to

2659
01:52:55,910 --> 01:52:53,360
be you know a hand being held up like

2660
01:52:58,790 --> 01:52:55,920
the the man and the pioneer plaque that

2661
01:53:01,350 --> 01:52:58,800
could seem to them to be a if they have

2662
01:53:04,070 --> 01:53:01,360
a notion of bipedal creatures to be a

2663
01:53:06,070 --> 01:53:04,080
threatening posture you know something

2664
01:53:08,390 --> 01:53:06,080
that's interesting to me is

2665
01:53:10,229 --> 01:53:08,400
you know we call it the internet and you

2666
01:53:11,990 --> 01:53:10,239
probably know what the

2667
01:53:15,030 --> 01:53:12,000
earlier name for the internet was when

2668
01:53:16,950 --> 01:53:15,040
it's limited to the government darpanet

2669
01:53:18,709 --> 01:53:16,960
yeah arpanet

2670
01:53:20,870 --> 01:53:18,719
yeah yeah but that wasn't the original

2671
01:53:23,990 --> 01:53:20,880
name the original name

2672
01:53:27,910 --> 01:53:24,000
as of 1962 was the intergalactic

2673
01:53:30,550 --> 01:53:27,920
computer network oh is that right no

2674
01:53:35,109 --> 01:53:30,560
net is now our internet as we know it

2675
01:53:37,910 --> 01:53:35,119
and since 1982 there's an international

2676
01:53:40,310 --> 01:53:37,920
body of 11 member states that's the

2677
01:53:43,589 --> 01:53:40,320
consultative committee for space data

2678
01:53:46,390 --> 01:53:43,599
systems that's working on sort of inter

2679
01:53:47,350 --> 01:53:46,400
interstellar communications protocols

2680
01:53:49,270 --> 01:53:47,360
so

2681
01:53:52,470 --> 01:53:49,280
there's been work and a lot of thought

2682
01:53:56,229 --> 01:53:52,480
going on for this for a long time

2683
01:53:58,070 --> 01:53:56,239
and it's a super challenging uh

2684
01:53:59,910 --> 01:53:58,080
situation to figure out like you said

2685
01:54:02,229 --> 01:53:59,920
who makes the first move is that

2686
01:54:04,390 --> 01:54:02,239
friendly or hostile what type of

2687
01:54:06,830 --> 01:54:04,400
language and i think it will

2688
01:54:09,350 --> 01:54:06,840
come down to binary and

2689
01:54:11,189 --> 01:54:09,360
mathematical uh computations because

2690
01:54:15,030 --> 01:54:11,199
those are unambiguous

2691
01:54:17,109 --> 01:54:15,040
and probably universal now would you do

2692
01:54:18,229 --> 01:54:17,119
this is

2693
01:54:21,189 --> 01:54:18,239
again

2694
01:54:23,510 --> 01:54:21,199
this is just me i'm not a phd

2695
01:54:25,589 --> 01:54:23,520
but would you do like the most basic of

2696
01:54:27,189 --> 01:54:25,599
the basics like

2697
01:54:28,070 --> 01:54:27,199
hydrogen

2698
01:54:30,950 --> 01:54:28,080
right

2699
01:54:34,390 --> 01:54:30,960
would you say that the first word

2700
01:54:38,070 --> 01:54:34,400
is our version in binary of like

2701
01:54:41,750 --> 01:54:38,080
hydrogen or helium or carbon something

2702
01:54:44,070 --> 01:54:41,760
that is absolutely universal right would

2703
01:54:47,510 --> 01:54:44,080
you go that route first yeah something

2704
01:54:50,709 --> 01:54:47,520
like that or some type of

2705
01:54:52,470 --> 01:54:50,719
pictorial representation of our solar

2706
01:54:54,950 --> 01:54:52,480
system but then again maybe they don't

2707
01:54:57,189 --> 01:54:54,960
have vision like we do they may not

2708
01:54:58,550 --> 01:54:57,199
think in time like we do

2709
01:55:00,790 --> 01:54:58,560
you know um

2710
01:55:02,390 --> 01:55:00,800
i worked with the

2711
01:55:03,990 --> 01:55:02,400
university of california santa barbara

2712
01:55:05,990 --> 01:55:04,000
physics department and philip lubin

2713
01:55:08,709 --> 01:55:06,000
who's the world leader in

2714
01:55:10,390 --> 01:55:08,719
using lasers to accelerate rockets to

2715
01:55:13,669 --> 01:55:10,400
close to the speed of light

2716
01:55:15,189 --> 01:55:13,679
and we talked about well if we do this

2717
01:55:17,430 --> 01:55:15,199
and we talked about communications but

2718
01:55:18,950 --> 01:55:17,440
we also talked about if we can send

2719
01:55:21,270 --> 01:55:18,960
payloads

2720
01:55:24,070 --> 01:55:21,280
and we could send tardigrades or c

2721
01:55:25,750 --> 01:55:24,080
elegans worms two organisms uniquely

2722
01:55:27,830 --> 01:55:25,760
designed for the rigors of spacecraft

2723
01:55:29,589 --> 01:55:27,840
and we may have been descended from [\h__\h]

2724
01:55:31,830 --> 01:55:29,599
grades for all we know

2725
01:55:33,669 --> 01:55:31,840
then the question is and we had a german

2726
01:55:35,109 --> 01:55:33,679
space ethicist

2727
01:55:37,350 --> 01:55:35,119
the question is

2728
01:55:39,830 --> 01:55:37,360
should we

2729
01:55:41,350 --> 01:55:39,840
send life into the universe as sort of a

2730
01:55:43,430 --> 01:55:41,360
communication

2731
01:55:45,030 --> 01:55:43,440
or do do we have the right do we have

2732
01:55:47,990 --> 01:55:45,040
the obligation

2733
01:55:51,109 --> 01:55:48,000
to do you know panspermia send life into

2734
01:55:54,629 --> 01:55:51,119
the universe so there's so many

2735
01:55:56,470 --> 01:55:54,639
ethical questions and let's say that we

2736
01:55:57,589 --> 01:55:56,480
come across another

2737
01:55:58,629 --> 01:55:57,599
culture

2738
01:56:01,030 --> 01:55:58,639
well

2739
01:56:03,750 --> 01:56:01,040
will we have kind of a prime directive

2740
01:56:05,430 --> 01:56:03,760
limitation like in star trek to not

2741
01:56:08,390 --> 01:56:05,440
interfere with them

2742
01:56:10,550 --> 01:56:08,400
unless we believe it's in their interest

2743
01:56:12,870 --> 01:56:10,560
they face imminent danger how do we

2744
01:56:16,149 --> 01:56:12,880
define it how do we understand them

2745
01:56:18,629 --> 01:56:16,159
are we endangering or antagonizing a

2746
01:56:20,629 --> 01:56:18,639
culture say do you have like a native

2747
01:56:21,910 --> 01:56:20,639
tribe in the middle of the amazon

2748
01:56:23,910 --> 01:56:21,920
right

2749
01:56:26,709 --> 01:56:23,920
should we or should we not reach out to

2750
01:56:29,589 --> 01:56:26,719
them there's so many difficult questions

2751
01:56:31,430 --> 01:56:29,599
but i believe that once a

2752
01:56:33,189 --> 01:56:31,440
handshake is formed and you have a

2753
01:56:36,070 --> 01:56:33,199
communications channel

2754
01:56:37,910 --> 01:56:36,080
it will likely be binary at first and

2755
01:56:41,589 --> 01:56:37,920
then any type of

2756
01:56:45,109 --> 01:56:41,599
value exchange will be on a blockchain

2757
01:56:47,669 --> 01:56:45,119
and would we okay so

2758
01:56:50,709 --> 01:56:47,679
we send them the first message in the

2759
01:56:54,830 --> 01:56:50,719
blockchain ledger right and should that

2760
01:56:57,750 --> 01:56:54,840
first message just be one big binary

2761
01:56:58,550 --> 01:56:57,760
block zeros and ones

2762
01:57:02,310 --> 01:56:58,560
in

2763
01:57:04,870 --> 01:57:02,320
of earth

2764
01:57:07,270 --> 01:57:04,880
all in ones and zeros their ai takes a

2765
01:57:10,550 --> 01:57:07,280
look at that off of the blockchain

2766
01:57:12,709 --> 01:57:10,560
and just makes sense of the language

2767
01:57:14,310 --> 01:57:12,719
yeah and we would bypass english we

2768
01:57:16,629 --> 01:57:14,320
would just send if we're going to make

2769
01:57:18,310 --> 01:57:16,639
it visual and perhaps we have to do more

2770
01:57:20,629 --> 01:57:18,320
than just visual we just send zeros and

2771
01:57:23,030 --> 01:57:20,639
ones we just send some binary language

2772
01:57:25,030 --> 01:57:23,040
right which can represent anything

2773
01:57:26,070 --> 01:57:25,040
so you think it would be visual instead

2774
01:57:28,470 --> 01:57:26,080
of

2775
01:57:30,709 --> 01:57:28,480
language based and literally i would say

2776
01:57:32,870 --> 01:57:30,719
not english whether it's spoken or

2777
01:57:34,629 --> 01:57:32,880
written or whatever we wouldn't use a

2778
01:57:36,790 --> 01:57:34,639
language like english i don't think i

2779
01:57:39,669 --> 01:57:36,800
think we would make it in binary and it

2780
01:57:42,070 --> 01:57:39,679
could be sounds it could be you know

2781
01:57:44,229 --> 01:57:42,080
braille type bumps it could be visual

2782
01:57:46,870 --> 01:57:44,239
representations of zeros and ones

2783
01:57:48,629 --> 01:57:46,880
without well i guess we could include a

2784
01:57:50,830 --> 01:57:48,639
language or languages along with that

2785
01:57:53,109 --> 01:57:50,840
but i don't think they'd be that

2786
01:57:53,990 --> 01:57:53,119
helpful we

2787
01:57:56,390 --> 01:57:54,000
okay

2788
01:57:57,990 --> 01:57:56,400
i know i sound um

2789
01:57:59,589 --> 01:57:58,000
uh

2790
01:58:02,070 --> 01:57:59,599
dumb

2791
01:58:02,870 --> 01:58:02,080
but i think that's my thing i would

2792
01:58:06,950 --> 01:58:02,880
think

2793
01:58:09,830 --> 01:58:06,960
no you're tardigrade i'm i'm just out

2794
01:58:11,830 --> 01:58:09,840
is is this paul uh we would have to i

2795
01:58:14,149 --> 01:58:11,840
would think we would need a language

2796
01:58:15,830 --> 01:58:14,159
foundation i would suggest english

2797
01:58:17,589 --> 01:58:15,840
because if they figured it out and we're

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01:58:19,910 --> 01:58:17,599
communicating back you know from the

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united states

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01:58:24,709 --> 01:58:22,159
we could start to get the back and forth

2801
01:58:26,790 --> 01:58:24,719
but but there's punctuations that would

2802
01:58:27,669 --> 01:58:26,800
be simple and and

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01:58:33,589 --> 01:58:27,679
and

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01:58:35,990 --> 01:58:33,599
not visual what if they don't have eyes

2805
01:58:38,229 --> 01:58:36,000
right i mean we can we communicate with

2806
01:58:39,830 --> 01:58:38,239
computers in assembly language with

2807
01:58:40,629 --> 01:58:39,840
binary

2808
01:58:42,550 --> 01:58:40,639
and

2809
01:58:44,070 --> 01:58:42,560
we don't need english to communicate

2810
01:58:46,550 --> 01:58:44,080
with computers

2811
01:58:48,470 --> 01:58:46,560
i think an advanced civilization may

2812
01:58:50,390 --> 01:58:48,480
either be merged with artificial

2813
01:58:52,709 --> 01:58:50,400
intelligence as we talked about

2814
01:58:54,390 --> 01:58:52,719
certainly able to understand binary we i

2815
01:58:55,430 --> 01:58:54,400
mean english we could put that in as

2816
01:58:57,430 --> 01:58:55,440
sort of a

2817
01:58:58,870 --> 01:58:57,440
if we wanted to if english was the

2818
01:59:01,510 --> 01:58:58,880
language that was chosen or perhaps

2819
01:59:03,910 --> 01:59:01,520
english you know spanish and chinese as

2820
01:59:07,189 --> 01:59:03,920
a little bit of cultural

2821
01:59:09,189 --> 01:59:07,199
accent but really not necessary would it

2822
01:59:12,149 --> 01:59:09,199
be simple enough do you think i mean

2823
01:59:13,350 --> 01:59:12,159
obviously e.t uh would be an advanced

2824
01:59:16,550 --> 01:59:13,360
civilization we're doing this

2825
01:59:18,629 --> 01:59:16,560
communication how would you uh

2826
01:59:21,030 --> 01:59:18,639
visualize the response you think the

2827
01:59:22,709 --> 01:59:21,040
response would just come back in binary

2828
01:59:25,669 --> 01:59:22,719
and something that we would understand

2829
01:59:27,830 --> 01:59:25,679
right away or we would be stumped

2830
01:59:30,390 --> 01:59:27,840
it may come back in the close encounters

2831
01:59:32,550 --> 01:59:30,400
jingle who knows yeah right right or may

2832
01:59:35,189 --> 01:59:32,560
come back in flashing you know like the

2833
01:59:36,390 --> 01:59:35,199
wow single signal that the seti folks

2834
01:59:38,229 --> 01:59:36,400
received

2835
01:59:41,589 --> 01:59:38,239
i don't presume to know how they would

2836
01:59:45,030 --> 01:59:41,599
come back but i i think that

2837
01:59:47,510 --> 01:59:45,040
computer call a computer language binary

2838
01:59:50,390 --> 01:59:47,520
is a more universal language than any of

2839
01:59:52,390 --> 01:59:50,400
our earth dialects

2840
01:59:54,470 --> 01:59:52,400
and more likely

2841
01:59:57,109 --> 01:59:54,480
to be understood by a radically

2842
01:59:59,109 --> 01:59:57,119
different culture and do you think i've

2843
02:00:01,430 --> 01:59:59,119
got one minute before the break

2844
02:00:03,030 --> 02:00:01,440
you think that e.t and i'm not being

2845
02:00:06,149 --> 02:00:03,040
cavalier here

2846
02:00:07,990 --> 02:00:06,159
we are counting on e.t

2847
02:00:10,550 --> 02:00:08,000
to have

2848
02:00:13,030 --> 02:00:10,560
math and understanding of math the same

2849
02:00:15,750 --> 02:00:13,040
as we do what if they don't what if they

2850
02:00:17,270 --> 02:00:15,760
moved on from math right sure sure i

2851
02:00:20,070 --> 02:00:17,280
mean i think all bets are off as to what

2852
02:00:21,750 --> 02:00:20,080
they're like and right let's say that

2853
02:00:23,109 --> 02:00:21,760
they are of a form let's say they're

2854
02:00:25,830 --> 02:00:23,119
carbon-based

2855
02:00:27,910 --> 02:00:25,840
and they're of a form that we would even

2856
02:00:29,350 --> 02:00:27,920
recognize as life we might you know

2857
02:00:31,109 --> 02:00:29,360
glide past something and not even

2858
02:00:33,030 --> 02:00:31,119
recognize intelligent life it could be

2859
02:00:35,910 --> 02:00:33,040
like a you know like a mycorrhizal

2860
02:00:37,910 --> 02:00:35,920
network underneath a forest floor sure

2861
02:00:39,510 --> 02:00:37,920
yeah so let's say that bi-fetal entities

2862
02:00:41,189 --> 02:00:39,520
and we recognize them as life and like

2863
02:00:43,510 --> 02:00:41,199
and likewise

2864
02:00:45,189 --> 02:00:43,520
if they are the ones that are more

2865
02:00:47,830 --> 02:00:45,199
advanced

2866
02:00:50,070 --> 02:00:47,840
if they don't use something like binary

2867
02:00:53,109 --> 02:00:50,080
they i'm just convinced they'll be able

2868
02:00:54,629 --> 02:00:53,119
to understand that logic

2869
02:00:56,709 --> 02:00:54,639
it's kind of like a like i mentioned

2870
02:00:58,149 --> 02:00:56,719
about the sort of convergence

2871
02:01:00,390 --> 02:00:58,159
they would either have gone down that

2872
02:01:02,310 --> 02:01:00,400
path or have something so advanced that

2873
02:01:03,830 --> 02:01:02,320
they could look at and say yeah like i

2874
02:01:05,510 --> 02:01:03,840
said oh that's adorable you're binary

2875
02:01:07,430 --> 02:01:05,520
okay we got it we got it right right

2876
02:01:08,709 --> 02:01:07,440
right right right this is fascinating

2877
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let's take our break right here our

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2981
02:06:11,510 --> 02:06:07,920
welcome back fade to black i am your

2982
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host jimmy church tonight paul heineck

2983
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blockchain and ufos

2984
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and i want to get to uh your next

2985
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connection and

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and i'm going to ask uh

2987
02:06:26,790 --> 02:06:24,239
as we get into that

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how do we okay so e.t sends us the

2989
02:06:31,189 --> 02:06:29,280
blockchain right whatever right

2990
02:06:32,950 --> 02:06:31,199
communication has started

2991
02:06:34,310 --> 02:06:32,960
how does

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02:06:36,950 --> 02:06:34,320
somebody like

2993
02:06:39,430 --> 02:06:36,960
seth showstack or any other radio

2994
02:06:44,629 --> 02:06:39,440
telescope on the planet recognize this

2995
02:06:48,229 --> 02:06:45,750
uh

2996
02:06:52,950 --> 02:06:48,239
so it in terms like

2997
02:06:57,430 --> 02:06:55,270
they could they can pick up so what seti

2998
02:07:00,229 --> 02:06:57,440
is engineered to do

2999
02:07:02,149 --> 02:07:00,239
is to find sort of repeated

3000
02:07:07,910 --> 02:07:02,159
non-natural

3001
02:07:12,229 --> 02:07:10,229
a conversion would have to happen i mean

3002
02:07:13,669 --> 02:07:12,239
and and somebody's got to make sense of

3003
02:07:15,270 --> 02:07:13,679
it

3004
02:07:17,510 --> 02:07:15,280
yeah and so this is

3005
02:07:19,189 --> 02:07:17,520
you know this is the the scenario where

3006
02:07:20,790 --> 02:07:19,199
it's a remote communication where we're

3007
02:07:22,629 --> 02:07:20,800
not having any kind of face-to-face

3008
02:07:25,109 --> 02:07:22,639
presence like a ship landing on the

3009
02:07:27,189 --> 02:07:25,119
white house lawn right sure but

3010
02:07:29,430 --> 02:07:27,199
i mean we've got said he's been scouring

3011
02:07:31,030 --> 02:07:29,440
for years for

3012
02:07:34,709 --> 02:07:31,040
signals that

3013
02:07:36,950 --> 02:07:34,719
show like a machine-like repetition

3014
02:07:39,270 --> 02:07:36,960
a data stream

3015
02:07:40,870 --> 02:07:39,280
yeah something non-like non-natural

3016
02:07:43,750 --> 02:07:40,880
non-sort of

3017
02:07:46,470 --> 02:07:43,760
naturally you know rising and falling in

3018
02:07:47,589 --> 02:07:46,480
terms of signal strength sure and

3019
02:07:52,629 --> 02:07:47,599
if we

3020
02:07:55,910 --> 02:07:52,639
were talking about math earlier

3021
02:07:57,510 --> 02:07:55,920
is it is is physics

3022
02:08:01,270 --> 02:07:57,520
in general

3023
02:08:03,350 --> 02:08:01,280
is f would would those

3024
02:08:06,310 --> 02:08:03,360
um i'm just going to use the word

3025
02:08:11,350 --> 02:08:06,320
algorithms however e.t would write those

3026
02:08:13,270 --> 02:08:11,360
algorithms out but is physics the same

3027
02:08:14,790 --> 02:08:13,280
everywhere

3028
02:08:17,350 --> 02:08:14,800
in other words if we're going to expect

3029
02:08:19,030 --> 02:08:17,360
information or try to get some gain some

3030
02:08:22,390 --> 02:08:19,040
intelligence or

3031
02:08:25,990 --> 02:08:22,400
anti-gravity or whatever it may be

3032
02:08:28,069 --> 02:08:26,000
would their physics be the same as ours

3033
02:08:32,629 --> 02:08:28,079
if we did establish

3034
02:08:37,109 --> 02:08:35,109
you know it seems like

3035
02:08:39,350 --> 02:08:37,119
although we are

3036
02:08:40,550 --> 02:08:39,360
constantly revising our understanding of

3037
02:08:43,270 --> 02:08:40,560
physics

3038
02:08:44,629 --> 02:08:43,280
that the predictive capacities we've

3039
02:08:45,669 --> 02:08:44,639
developed with our understanding of

3040
02:08:47,830 --> 02:08:45,679
physics

3041
02:08:50,870 --> 02:08:47,840
would seem to be universal it's it's

3042
02:08:52,629 --> 02:08:50,880
hard to imagine that there's a a galaxy

3043
02:08:55,109 --> 02:08:52,639
that has different

3044
02:08:57,189 --> 02:08:55,119
basic physics than we do

3045
02:08:58,470 --> 02:08:57,199
the universe is a pretty wild place i

3046
02:09:00,550 --> 02:08:58,480
don't think we can rule it out but it

3047
02:09:02,870 --> 02:09:00,560
seems likely that they would have

3048
02:09:05,270 --> 02:09:02,880
the same types of basic laws

3049
02:09:08,790 --> 02:09:05,280
however if they've gotten to a point of

3050
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post singularity civilization and

3051
02:09:13,189 --> 02:09:10,800
mastery of technology

3052
02:09:15,510 --> 02:09:13,199
they're going to have powers

3053
02:09:17,189 --> 02:09:15,520
over matter and energy that we would

3054
02:09:20,709 --> 02:09:17,199
liken to magic

3055
02:09:22,149 --> 02:09:20,719
right right of course and the quantum

3056
02:09:24,629 --> 02:09:22,159
part of this

3057
02:09:27,990 --> 02:09:24,639
right particles and atoms would be the

3058
02:09:29,589 --> 02:09:28,000
same there as they are here

3059
02:09:32,390 --> 02:09:29,599
right they should be

3060
02:09:36,069 --> 02:09:32,400
right would and so i guess gravity and

3061
02:09:37,990 --> 02:09:36,079
the speed of light would be universal

3062
02:09:40,149 --> 02:09:38,000
right and i'm talking about their

3063
02:09:42,149 --> 02:09:40,159
ability to manipulate them yeah right

3064
02:09:43,589 --> 02:09:42,159
right right it's such an interesting

3065
02:09:44,709 --> 02:09:43,599
concept to me

3066
02:09:45,510 --> 02:09:44,719
um

3067
02:09:46,629 --> 02:09:45,520
so

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02:09:48,550 --> 02:09:46,639
if they

3069
02:09:50,550 --> 02:09:48,560
give us information

3070
02:09:54,149 --> 02:09:50,560
it would have to apply to what we

3071
02:09:56,629 --> 02:09:54,159
understand with physics now otherwise

3072
02:09:58,709 --> 02:09:56,639
we we wouldn't get it

3073
02:10:00,709 --> 02:09:58,719
yeah you know i had a debate online with

3074
02:10:03,350 --> 02:10:00,719
michael shermer a few weeks ago

3075
02:10:04,550 --> 02:10:03,360
brilliant skeptic and one of the points

3076
02:10:07,350 --> 02:10:04,560
he's made

3077
02:10:08,550 --> 02:10:07,360
is that okay say an alien civilization

3078
02:10:11,109 --> 02:10:08,560
comes to earth

3079
02:10:13,270 --> 02:10:11,119
and we're thinking wow this is jackpot

3080
02:10:15,910 --> 02:10:13,280
we've got great technology to

3081
02:10:18,310 --> 02:10:15,920
vault the whole earth past its reliance

3082
02:10:19,189 --> 02:10:18,320
on fossil fuels and the like

3083
02:10:21,589 --> 02:10:19,199
well

3084
02:10:22,870 --> 02:10:21,599
the sort of logistical problem that that

3085
02:10:25,430 --> 02:10:22,880
comes up is

3086
02:10:27,669 --> 02:10:25,440
if that alien culture really is

3087
02:10:29,750 --> 02:10:27,679
so far advanced past us

3088
02:10:32,390 --> 02:10:29,760
how are we going to understand their

3089
02:10:34,310 --> 02:10:32,400
technology much less get the spare parts

3090
02:10:35,109 --> 02:10:34,320
and actually employ it

3091
02:10:37,350 --> 02:10:35,119
so

3092
02:10:40,629 --> 02:10:37,360
they would have to be able to either

3093
02:10:43,830 --> 02:10:40,639
downshift it to us immediately or

3094
02:10:45,830 --> 02:10:43,840
not be that far advanced from us such

3095
02:10:47,510 --> 02:10:45,840
that we just simply can't understand

3096
02:10:50,149 --> 02:10:47,520
what's happening

3097
02:10:51,910 --> 02:10:50,159
how do we overcome that what was your

3098
02:10:54,229 --> 02:10:51,920
what was your counter

3099
02:10:56,390 --> 02:10:54,239
argument in that debate

3100
02:10:58,470 --> 02:10:56,400
well my debate what i did was

3101
02:11:00,470 --> 02:10:58,480
i limited the debate uh because you

3102
02:11:02,310 --> 02:11:00,480
can't prove extraterrestrial

3103
02:11:03,430 --> 02:11:02,320
intelligence in an hour well now i said

3104
02:11:05,510 --> 02:11:03,440
was look

3105
02:11:06,470 --> 02:11:05,520
i'm going to show in the course of this

3106
02:11:09,109 --> 02:11:06,480
hour

3107
02:11:11,669 --> 02:11:09,119
that a rational person can look at the

3108
02:11:14,390 --> 02:11:11,679
weight of evidence the thousands of

3109
02:11:16,310 --> 02:11:14,400
investigated unexplained cases the

3110
02:11:19,030 --> 02:11:16,320
public announcement from the united

3111
02:11:21,510 --> 02:11:19,040
states navy that they see lots of ufos

3112
02:11:23,589 --> 02:11:21,520
which they call uaps and that they're

3113
02:11:25,510 --> 02:11:23,599
afraid for the safety of their aviators

3114
02:11:26,790 --> 02:11:25,520
i use things like that that speak to

3115
02:11:29,030 --> 02:11:26,800
science to say

3116
02:11:30,950 --> 02:11:29,040
that's sufficient evidence for me to

3117
02:11:33,910 --> 02:11:30,960
think yeah there's something going on

3118
02:11:36,550 --> 02:11:33,920
here you don't have to accept that

3119
02:11:38,669 --> 02:11:36,560
there's a phenomena occurring on earth

3120
02:11:40,790 --> 02:11:38,679
which to which you ascribe

3121
02:11:44,069 --> 02:11:40,800
meta-terrestrial origin

3122
02:11:46,790 --> 02:11:44,079
you don't have to have an answer for how

3123
02:11:49,350 --> 02:11:46,800
a civilization has got here or why they

3124
02:11:51,510 --> 02:11:49,360
only scare farmer brown at night or what

3125
02:11:52,390 --> 02:11:51,520
do they eat or why don't we see them on

3126
02:11:54,629 --> 02:11:52,400
radar

3127
02:11:56,229 --> 02:11:54,639
the exit the evidence for the existence

3128
02:11:58,950 --> 02:11:56,239
of a phenomena

3129
02:12:02,229 --> 02:11:58,960
can be weighed on its own merits and the

3130
02:12:04,390 --> 02:12:02,239
inconvenience or the implausibility of

3131
02:12:06,470 --> 02:12:04,400
how that could have got here that should

3132
02:12:08,950 --> 02:12:06,480
not affect your initial decision to

3133
02:12:11,270 --> 02:12:08,960
weigh that evidence and say yeah not

3134
02:12:13,830 --> 02:12:11,280
only is do i think there is a phenomena

3135
02:12:15,830 --> 02:12:13,840
here but i think it's well past earthly

3136
02:12:18,390 --> 02:12:15,840
technology those are second level

3137
02:12:20,390 --> 02:12:18,400
questions which are well past the you

3138
02:12:24,310 --> 02:12:20,400
know the parameters of a of a single

3139
02:12:26,229 --> 02:12:24,320
debate now you mentioned earlier staying

3140
02:12:30,790 --> 02:12:26,239
right where we are right now

3141
02:12:33,750 --> 02:12:30,800
you mentioned earlier about the ability

3142
02:12:36,709 --> 02:12:33,760
to use crypto

3143
02:12:40,069 --> 02:12:36,719
to cover things

3144
02:12:43,030 --> 02:12:40,079
would crypto be used like bitcoin used

3145
02:12:45,189 --> 02:12:43,040
in a black project to say

3146
02:12:47,750 --> 02:12:45,199
reverse engineer

3147
02:12:50,709 --> 02:12:47,760
right alien technology where that

3148
02:12:53,109 --> 02:12:50,719
suddenly is not on the books

3149
02:12:54,790 --> 02:12:53,119
well and and let me sort of

3150
02:12:57,189 --> 02:12:54,800
nuance that a bit

3151
02:12:59,910 --> 02:12:57,199
bitcoin still has a bit of a stigma as

3152
02:13:01,350 --> 02:12:59,920
being the drug lord money of choice

3153
02:13:04,470 --> 02:13:01,360
because it's

3154
02:13:06,149 --> 02:13:04,480
outside you know it's anonymous it's not

3155
02:13:08,390 --> 02:13:06,159
um there have been a fair amount of

3156
02:13:11,270 --> 02:13:08,400
studies done that on a per transaction

3157
02:13:13,830 --> 02:13:11,280
basis there's far more fraud going on in

3158
02:13:15,510 --> 02:13:13,840
u.s dollars than there is in bitcoin

3159
02:13:17,750 --> 02:13:15,520
there was a recent case where these two

3160
02:13:19,990 --> 02:13:17,760
chuckleheads in new york

3161
02:13:21,990 --> 02:13:20,000
had stolen a bunch of bitcoin four years

3162
02:13:23,910 --> 02:13:22,000
ago and is now worth like four billion

3163
02:13:25,350 --> 02:13:23,920
dollars and they started trying to

3164
02:13:27,350 --> 02:13:25,360
offload it and they got caught

3165
02:13:30,470 --> 02:13:27,360
immediately because the blockchain is

3166
02:13:32,629 --> 02:13:30,480
not anonymous it's pseudonymous and

3167
02:13:34,950 --> 02:13:32,639
you can't you know every transaction is

3168
02:13:37,189 --> 02:13:34,960
is of public record it's just you don't

3169
02:13:39,189 --> 02:13:37,199
always know who did that transaction i

3170
02:13:42,229 --> 02:13:39,199
have to think that there are agencies

3171
02:13:43,910 --> 02:13:42,239
that can figure that out so some pundits

3172
02:13:46,069 --> 02:13:43,920
said hey the way these people were

3173
02:13:48,870 --> 02:13:46,079
trying to offload this bitcoin

3174
02:13:50,229 --> 02:13:48,880
is akin to robbing tiffany's and leaving

3175
02:13:52,069 --> 02:13:50,239
your wallet

3176
02:13:52,870 --> 02:13:52,079
so

3177
02:13:55,270 --> 02:13:52,880
for

3178
02:13:56,550 --> 02:13:55,280
the united states government agencies

3179
02:13:58,390 --> 02:13:56,560
yeah i mean it's just like having

3180
02:14:00,229 --> 02:13:58,400
dollars whether it's bitcoin or dollars

3181
02:14:02,629 --> 02:14:00,239
it doesn't really matter they've had off

3182
02:14:05,750 --> 02:14:02,639
balance sheet accounts before in dollars

3183
02:14:08,149 --> 02:14:05,760
but what's interesting about bitcoin and

3184
02:14:10,390 --> 02:14:08,159
blockchain is that eventually all the

3185
02:14:12,390 --> 02:14:10,400
transactions are public record unlike

3186
02:14:14,629 --> 02:14:12,400
u.s dollar transactions there's no

3187
02:14:16,709 --> 02:14:14,639
central database where you can go and

3188
02:14:20,550 --> 02:14:16,719
see every single transaction for dollars

3189
02:14:21,990 --> 02:14:20,560
in history it's more murky than bitcoin

3190
02:14:26,069 --> 02:14:22,000
but

3191
02:14:27,430 --> 02:14:26,079
back to my direct question though could

3192
02:14:28,629 --> 02:14:27,440
say the cia

3193
02:14:30,069 --> 02:14:28,639
[Music]

3194
02:14:32,390 --> 02:14:30,079
fund

3195
02:14:34,149 --> 02:14:32,400
a private corporation like

3196
02:14:36,790 --> 02:14:34,159
you know lockheed

3197
02:14:39,189 --> 02:14:36,800
um in backwards engineering

3198
02:14:40,470 --> 02:14:39,199
uh alien tech

3199
02:14:42,629 --> 02:14:40,480
with crypto

3200
02:14:46,069 --> 02:14:42,639
instead of because that would be off the

3201
02:14:49,030 --> 02:14:46,079
books in the eyes of of congress

3202
02:14:51,669 --> 02:14:49,040
uh sort of um

3203
02:14:53,589 --> 02:14:51,679
there are some advantages because of the

3204
02:14:55,669 --> 02:14:53,599
dramatic appreciation in the value of

3205
02:14:58,069 --> 02:14:55,679
bitcoin and the limiting of accounting

3206
02:14:59,189 --> 02:14:58,079
that you don't change the value on your

3207
02:15:01,350 --> 02:14:59,199
books

3208
02:15:03,589 --> 02:15:01,360
so from a corporate point of view

3209
02:15:04,790 --> 02:15:03,599
it's a disadvantage because you buy

3210
02:15:07,270 --> 02:15:04,800
bitcoin

3211
02:15:09,430 --> 02:15:07,280
if the price goes down at some point you

3212
02:15:11,510 --> 02:15:09,440
impair that asset if the price goes up

3213
02:15:12,629 --> 02:15:11,520
you don't mark to market

3214
02:15:14,870 --> 02:15:12,639
i don't want to get too far in the

3215
02:15:16,470 --> 02:15:14,880
accounting weeds but

3216
02:15:18,629 --> 02:15:16,480
the sort of corollary to that is a

3217
02:15:21,350 --> 02:15:18,639
government agency can have a little bit

3218
02:15:23,669 --> 02:15:21,360
more freedom because of the price uh

3219
02:15:25,430 --> 02:15:23,679
variations of bitcoin but they don't

3220
02:15:26,629 --> 02:15:25,440
need bitcoin to do off-balance things

3221
02:15:29,350 --> 02:15:26,639
they could do it in dollars as they

3222
02:15:31,350 --> 02:15:29,360
always have um so to them i think

3223
02:15:33,589 --> 02:15:31,360
they're probably fairly indifferent over

3224
02:15:35,109 --> 02:15:33,599
what the currency is they've got money

3225
02:15:37,430 --> 02:15:35,119
off the books and probably a hundred

3226
02:15:39,350 --> 02:15:37,440
different currencies and uh give us

3227
02:15:41,270 --> 02:15:39,360
another connection between bitcoin and

3228
02:15:42,550 --> 02:15:41,280
ufos

3229
02:15:45,350 --> 02:15:42,560
okay so

3230
02:15:47,189 --> 02:15:45,360
and let's talk about blockchain um

3231
02:15:49,669 --> 02:15:47,199
i've been approached by somebody asking

3232
02:15:50,790 --> 02:15:49,679
me to help lead an effort to make a

3233
02:15:52,069 --> 02:15:50,800
global

3234
02:15:55,270 --> 02:15:52,079
ufo

3235
02:15:57,830 --> 02:15:55,280
database blockchain

3236
02:16:00,870 --> 02:15:57,840
so that we gather information about ufo

3237
02:16:03,109 --> 02:16:00,880
reports and put it on a blockchain so

3238
02:16:05,270 --> 02:16:03,119
that no government agency can monkey

3239
02:16:06,069 --> 02:16:05,280
with it i mean think about this as like

3240
02:16:13,910 --> 02:16:06,079
a

3241
02:16:15,109 --> 02:16:13,920
sensor

3242
02:16:16,790 --> 02:16:15,119
modify

3243
02:16:20,709 --> 02:16:16,800
because it's stored on a million

3244
02:16:26,950 --> 02:16:23,990
somebody just posted uh the current

3245
02:16:29,310 --> 02:16:26,960
blockchain bitcoin ledger

3246
02:16:34,870 --> 02:16:33,110
455.04 gigabytes

3247
02:16:37,509 --> 02:16:34,880
and he knows because he says he's

3248
02:16:39,589 --> 02:16:37,519
running a full mode yeah he's right he's

3249
02:16:41,270 --> 02:16:39,599
got a note right yeah so that's not i

3250
02:16:43,910 --> 02:16:41,280
mean that's less than a terabyte yeah

3251
02:16:45,910 --> 02:16:43,920
it's not bad i'm i'm shocked at how

3252
02:16:46,709 --> 02:16:45,920
small that is actually it's because it's

3253
02:16:48,629 --> 02:16:46,719
just

3254
02:16:50,790 --> 02:16:48,639
that kind of binary data

3255
02:16:52,709 --> 02:16:50,800
financial data doesn't have a large

3256
02:16:54,469 --> 02:16:52,719
memory footprint it's when you have like

3257
02:16:56,230 --> 02:16:54,479
visual and voxels and things like that

3258
02:16:58,150 --> 02:16:56,240
that it eats up a lot of memory like

3259
02:17:00,230 --> 02:16:58,160
when i was working on um

3260
02:17:02,790 --> 02:17:00,240
avatar we were generating a terabyte of

3261
02:17:04,790 --> 02:17:02,800
data a day

3262
02:17:06,629 --> 02:17:04,800
and here the whole blockchain of bitcoin

3263
02:17:09,669 --> 02:17:06,639
in its entire history was like well he

3264
02:17:12,469 --> 02:17:09,679
said like 455

3265
02:17:14,309 --> 02:17:12,479
gigabits yeah i mean gigabytes that's

3266
02:17:16,709 --> 02:17:14,319
not that much yeah i'm looking at his

3267
02:17:19,429 --> 02:17:16,719
note here he posted a picture of it

3268
02:17:20,150 --> 02:17:19,439
and uh even the note is pretty small

3269
02:17:23,429 --> 02:17:20,160
yeah

3270
02:17:25,429 --> 02:17:23,439
i'm about to uh start up a note as well

3271
02:17:27,669 --> 02:17:25,439
how much electricity does a node take

3272
02:17:30,790 --> 02:17:27,679
and i mean that's just running that's

3273
02:17:32,469 --> 02:17:30,800
that just never stops uh a node is

3274
02:17:35,750 --> 02:17:32,479
different than mining

3275
02:17:38,230 --> 02:17:35,760
a node is one of the entities in a

3276
02:17:40,150 --> 02:17:38,240
network that validates transactions but

3277
02:17:42,549 --> 02:17:40,160
it's never census protocol right but it

3278
02:17:44,070 --> 02:17:42,559
never stops i mean that's being updated

3279
02:17:45,990 --> 02:17:44,080
ideally it doesn't i mean

3280
02:17:48,150 --> 02:17:46,000
one of one of the really cool things

3281
02:17:50,230 --> 02:17:48,160
about networks and this is something i

3282
02:17:52,629 --> 02:17:50,240
learned i have a good friend david chom

3283
02:17:54,950 --> 02:17:52,639
who who i'm working with now who is one

3284
02:17:56,709 --> 02:17:54,960
of the ogs in cryptocurrency he made the

3285
02:17:59,669 --> 02:17:56,719
first digital currency upon which

3286
02:18:01,110 --> 02:17:59,679
bitcoin relies in many ways and one of

3287
02:18:03,910 --> 02:18:01,120
the things i i've learned in working

3288
02:18:05,110 --> 02:18:03,920
with david and the team at xx network

3289
02:18:07,190 --> 02:18:05,120
is that

3290
02:18:09,429 --> 02:18:07,200
one of the ways you measure the

3291
02:18:11,990 --> 02:18:09,439
robustness of a network

3292
02:18:14,230 --> 02:18:12,000
is abbreviated as bft which stands for

3293
02:18:16,469 --> 02:18:14,240
byzantine fault tolerance because if you

3294
02:18:18,870 --> 02:18:16,479
don't have a central actor that makes

3295
02:18:20,629 --> 02:18:18,880
their unilateral decision

3296
02:18:23,110 --> 02:18:20,639
you've got the sort of coordination

3297
02:18:25,750 --> 02:18:23,120
problem of how do you determine how many

3298
02:18:27,750 --> 02:18:25,760
nodes what if some of the nodes go down

3299
02:18:31,190 --> 02:18:27,760
and it's called byzantine fault

3300
02:18:34,150 --> 02:18:31,200
tolerance from the age-old byzantine

3301
02:18:36,709 --> 02:18:34,160
general problem which refers to warfare

3302
02:18:38,469 --> 02:18:36,719
in antiquity let's say jimmy you and i

3303
02:18:41,110 --> 02:18:38,479
are going to we're defending our city

3304
02:18:43,669 --> 02:18:41,120
against a marauding army and we have 30

3305
02:18:45,669 --> 02:18:43,679
generals and we make a game plan right

3306
02:18:47,349 --> 02:18:45,679
here's what we're going to do well like

3307
02:18:49,190 --> 02:18:47,359
mike tyson said everyone's got a plan

3308
02:18:51,750 --> 02:18:49,200
until you get punched in the mouth so in

3309
02:18:53,750 --> 02:18:51,760
the heat and the fog of war

3310
02:18:56,389 --> 02:18:53,760
without you know back then without great

3311
02:18:58,389 --> 02:18:56,399
you know communications and cell phones

3312
02:19:00,549 --> 02:18:58,399
at how do we know that the network is

3313
02:19:03,669 --> 02:19:00,559
still robust four of our generals are

3314
02:19:06,309 --> 02:19:03,679
killed we think five are enemy spies for

3315
02:19:08,790 --> 02:19:06,319
the other side a bunch of the messengers

3316
02:19:11,349 --> 02:19:08,800
get killed are turned some of them are

3317
02:19:13,190 --> 02:19:11,359
just drunk and not responding so at what

3318
02:19:16,629 --> 02:19:13,200
point do we decide that network is no

3319
02:19:19,349 --> 02:19:16,639
longer viable so the bft or byzantine

3320
02:19:22,790 --> 02:19:19,359
fault tolerance is a way to describe the

3321
02:19:26,549 --> 02:19:22,800
robustness of the network say it's 30

3322
02:19:30,389 --> 02:19:26,559
of the nodes need to be both online and

3323
02:19:31,429 --> 02:19:30,399
reliable then transactions can proceed

3324
02:19:33,429 --> 02:19:31,439
now

3325
02:19:35,669 --> 02:19:33,439
back to the ufo

3326
02:19:37,910 --> 02:19:35,679
incident blockchain

3327
02:19:39,750 --> 02:19:37,920
in that blockchain

3328
02:19:40,549 --> 02:19:39,760
what if it's

3329
02:19:42,469 --> 02:19:40,559
um

3330
02:19:45,030 --> 02:19:42,479
is there information that could be

3331
02:19:48,230 --> 02:19:45,040
stored in that blockchain can images be

3332
02:19:51,110 --> 02:19:48,240
stored in that blockchain videos and

3333
02:19:54,070 --> 02:19:51,120
isn't that memory intensive

3334
02:19:55,190 --> 02:19:54,080
yeah so the the way that databases work

3335
02:19:57,429 --> 02:19:55,200
in general

3336
02:19:58,950 --> 02:19:57,439
is that you have tags you have got

3337
02:20:01,429 --> 02:19:58,960
different layers you would have like the

3338
02:20:03,190 --> 02:20:01,439
tags information and then you'd have say

3339
02:20:05,750 --> 02:20:03,200
another bucket in which you'd have that

3340
02:20:07,990 --> 02:20:05,760
data rich information

3341
02:20:10,950 --> 02:20:08,000
so it wouldn't exist in the blockchain

3342
02:20:12,630 --> 02:20:10,960
itself yeah i don't think so i'm not i'm

3343
02:20:15,030 --> 02:20:12,640
starting to punch above my weight here a

3344
02:20:17,110 --> 02:20:15,040
little bit but i don't know if there are

3345
02:20:19,030 --> 02:20:17,120
let's say visually rich block chains i

3346
02:20:21,030 --> 02:20:19,040
think it might be a separate database

3347
02:20:23,750 --> 02:20:21,040
that's that's referred to by the

3348
02:20:25,670 --> 02:20:23,760
blockchain and so those tags hyperlinks

3349
02:20:27,510 --> 02:20:25,680
whatever you want to call them

3350
02:20:29,349 --> 02:20:27,520
would go to

3351
02:20:32,469 --> 02:20:29,359
an external

3352
02:20:34,389 --> 02:20:32,479
uh drive that would have the visual

3353
02:20:35,910 --> 02:20:34,399
information or whatever it may be right

3354
02:20:37,429 --> 02:20:35,920
the files

3355
02:20:38,309 --> 02:20:37,439
i've structured databases like that

3356
02:20:39,270 --> 02:20:38,319
before

3357
02:20:41,910 --> 02:20:39,280
um

3358
02:20:43,590 --> 02:20:41,920
you know you mentioned satoshi nakamoto

3359
02:20:45,670 --> 02:20:43,600
there's some interesting things about

3360
02:20:47,270 --> 02:20:45,680
this pseudonym about the creator

3361
02:20:50,230 --> 02:20:47,280
creators of bitcoin

3362
02:20:53,510 --> 02:20:50,240
satoshi nakamoto is a japanese name

3363
02:20:55,910 --> 02:20:53,520
and the rough translation is

3364
02:20:57,750 --> 02:20:55,920
clear thinking or intelligent and

3365
02:21:00,150 --> 02:20:57,760
central origin

3366
02:21:01,349 --> 02:21:00,160
so if you think intelligent and central

3367
02:21:04,150 --> 02:21:01,359
origin

3368
02:21:06,870 --> 02:21:04,160
is there by any chance a three-letter us

3369
02:21:09,190 --> 02:21:06,880
government agency that sounds like that

3370
02:21:10,550 --> 02:21:09,200
right so some people think it's the cia

3371
02:21:12,230 --> 02:21:10,560
that created bitcoin which is

3372
02:21:13,910 --> 02:21:12,240
interesting now here's something that my

3373
02:21:16,070 --> 02:21:13,920
friend andrew smith lewis and i

3374
02:21:18,150 --> 02:21:16,080
discovered yesterday that i don't know

3375
02:21:20,710 --> 02:21:18,160
if anybody else has seen

3376
02:21:22,630 --> 02:21:20,720
write down the letters satoshi nakamoto

3377
02:21:24,710 --> 02:21:22,640
on a piece of paper and there's an

3378
02:21:27,590 --> 02:21:24,720
anagram that you get from rearranging

3379
02:21:30,389 --> 02:21:27,600
those letters that to me is convincing

3380
02:21:33,830 --> 02:21:30,399
evidence that satoshi nakamoto was an

3381
02:21:36,469 --> 02:21:33,840
alien and i've never seen this before so

3382
02:21:39,190 --> 02:21:36,479
you take the letter satoshi nakamoto and

3383
02:21:40,710 --> 02:21:39,200
you rearrange them and here's one of the

3384
02:21:43,110 --> 02:21:40,720
things you can get

3385
02:21:45,510 --> 02:21:43,120
greetings earthlings bitcoin is a gift

3386
02:21:47,750 --> 02:21:45,520
from the universe to help mankind please

3387
02:21:50,710 --> 02:21:47,760
don't mess it up and listen to fade to

3388
02:21:52,710 --> 02:21:50,720
black sincerely the aliens

3389
02:21:54,710 --> 02:21:52,720
isn't that incredible what more of a

3390
02:21:58,150 --> 02:21:54,720
smoking gun do you need i know and i'm

3391
02:22:01,510 --> 02:21:58,160
looking and that's it you know and and

3392
02:22:04,070 --> 02:22:01,520
that's hidden in there really well

3393
02:22:05,270 --> 02:22:04,080
because i i mean i i just there are that

3394
02:22:07,190 --> 02:22:05,280
many letters but when you start

3395
02:22:09,429 --> 02:22:07,200
rearranging them yeah there's some kind

3396
02:22:12,070 --> 02:22:09,439
of bitcoin appreciation factor that

3397
02:22:13,830 --> 02:22:12,080
happens and and there isn't even an f in

3398
02:22:17,349 --> 02:22:13,840
there

3399
02:22:20,070 --> 02:22:17,359
go figure yeah i know that's incredible

3400
02:22:22,469 --> 02:22:20,080
um the

3401
02:22:24,870 --> 02:22:22,479
i actually wrote it down see you got me

3402
02:22:25,830 --> 02:22:24,880
hook line and sinker i actually wrote it

3403
02:22:29,830 --> 02:22:25,840
down

3404
02:22:31,990 --> 02:22:29,840
and was uh trying to uh uh de-scramble

3405
02:22:35,110 --> 02:22:32,000
the um uh

3406
02:22:38,870 --> 02:22:35,120
the other connections that are here

3407
02:22:44,070 --> 02:22:40,469
i believe

3408
02:22:47,429 --> 02:22:44,080
that the blockchain idea and i didn't

3409
02:22:49,510 --> 02:22:47,439
think of blockchain when we were uh

3410
02:22:51,030 --> 02:22:49,520
discussing this uh

3411
02:22:52,389 --> 02:22:51,040
uh this week

3412
02:22:55,910 --> 02:22:52,399
is that

3413
02:22:59,670 --> 02:22:55,920
the blockchain would allow

3414
02:23:03,030 --> 02:22:59,680
the back and forth between e.t and us to

3415
02:23:05,190 --> 02:23:03,040
remain unchanged and you can go back and

3416
02:23:06,870 --> 02:23:05,200
continue to look at it and look at it

3417
02:23:08,150 --> 02:23:06,880
and look at it because you have to

3418
02:23:10,070 --> 02:23:08,160
figure out

3419
02:23:12,309 --> 02:23:10,080
each other's languages

3420
02:23:13,750 --> 02:23:12,319
and if it's in the blockchain

3421
02:23:16,790 --> 02:23:13,760
there isn't

3422
02:23:19,590 --> 02:23:16,800
any confusion right am i making sense

3423
02:23:22,309 --> 02:23:19,600
here that yeah as long as there's it is

3424
02:23:23,510 --> 02:23:22,319
a sufficiently distributed ledger right

3425
02:23:24,870 --> 02:23:23,520
then it's

3426
02:23:26,230 --> 02:23:24,880
very difficult to change now you can

3427
02:23:28,550 --> 02:23:26,240
imagine a

3428
02:23:30,469 --> 02:23:28,560
a a of

3429
02:23:32,790 --> 02:23:30,479
an alien intelligence that's smart

3430
02:23:34,230 --> 02:23:32,800
enough to somehow rewrite hard drives

3431
02:23:37,110 --> 02:23:34,240
perhaps but

3432
02:23:38,550 --> 02:23:37,120
what what it would likely come down to

3433
02:23:39,590 --> 02:23:38,560
is that

3434
02:23:42,469 --> 02:23:39,600
for

3435
02:23:44,389 --> 02:23:42,479
societies to exchange value

3436
02:23:46,550 --> 02:23:44,399
it's almost inevitable

3437
02:23:49,429 --> 02:23:46,560
that they will each develop their own

3438
02:23:51,910 --> 02:23:49,439
equivalent of a bitcoin

3439
02:23:53,910 --> 02:23:51,920
for one planet to say hey we like your

3440
02:23:56,150 --> 02:23:53,920
bitcoin we're going to mine that

3441
02:23:57,910 --> 02:23:56,160
you've got propagation delays and and

3442
02:23:59,349 --> 02:23:57,920
difference in hash rate dominance and

3443
02:24:01,510 --> 02:23:59,359
all these technical things that make it

3444
02:24:03,670 --> 02:24:01,520
unlikely so it would be more like that

3445
02:24:07,349 --> 02:24:03,680
each planet would make their own

3446
02:24:10,150 --> 02:24:07,359
you know soul coin or bitcoin equivalent

3447
02:24:11,990 --> 02:24:10,160
and that now they would mine it there

3448
02:24:14,150 --> 02:24:12,000
and part of the

3449
02:24:15,190 --> 02:24:14,160
you know people get confused about the

3450
02:24:16,950 --> 02:24:15,200
energy

3451
02:24:18,790 --> 02:24:16,960
consumption of bitcoin we can talk more

3452
02:24:20,870 --> 02:24:18,800
about that if you want it's actually

3453
02:24:23,270 --> 02:24:20,880
very green the greenest currency of all

3454
02:24:25,190 --> 02:24:23,280
time but you need to have that money

3455
02:24:26,389 --> 02:24:25,200
hard to make because can you know

3456
02:24:28,230 --> 02:24:26,399
compare that with the united states

3457
02:24:30,469 --> 02:24:28,240
government prints money like drunken

3458
02:24:32,790 --> 02:24:30,479
sailors because it's easy when it's hard

3459
02:24:34,710 --> 02:24:32,800
to make it makes the the currency

3460
02:24:37,349 --> 02:24:34,720
valuable you couple that with the

3461
02:24:39,670 --> 02:24:37,359
mathematically guaranteed limits that's

3462
02:24:41,990 --> 02:24:39,680
what makes bitcoin more valuable than

3463
02:24:45,030 --> 02:24:42,000
any currency ever so each planet i

3464
02:24:47,030 --> 02:24:45,040
believe will develop its own bitcoin

3465
02:24:48,950 --> 02:24:47,040
like monetary unit

3466
02:24:51,750 --> 02:24:48,960
those can be exchanged around the

3467
02:24:54,309 --> 02:24:51,760
universe and it will come down to

3468
02:24:56,469 --> 02:24:54,319
the credibility of that planet itself

3469
02:24:59,110 --> 02:24:56,479
not of any government on the planet but

3470
02:25:02,950 --> 02:24:59,120
the whole planet and what i call the pcs

3471
02:25:08,070 --> 02:25:05,670
which if there is intergalactic trade

3472
02:25:11,990 --> 02:25:08,080
which there must be

3473
02:25:13,830 --> 02:25:12,000
there has to be a method to to do it

3474
02:25:16,630 --> 02:25:13,840
that's right and that it would come down

3475
02:25:17,670 --> 02:25:16,640
the the really it all sort of comes down

3476
02:25:18,630 --> 02:25:17,680
to

3477
02:25:22,550 --> 02:25:18,640
the

3478
02:25:24,790 --> 02:25:22,560
inevitable inexorable logic of a bitcoin

3479
02:25:27,190 --> 02:25:24,800
like monetary system right because i'm

3480
02:25:29,510 --> 02:25:27,200
not going to if i'm a venetian i'm not

3481
02:25:30,790 --> 02:25:29,520
going to accept a bunch of benjamins

3482
02:25:32,870 --> 02:25:30,800
which i know aren't going to be worth

3483
02:25:34,550 --> 02:25:32,880
very much i'm not going to as a venetian

3484
02:25:35,910 --> 02:25:34,560
i'm not going to say like oh you know i

3485
02:25:38,309 --> 02:25:35,920
need to monitor

3486
02:25:39,750 --> 02:25:38,319
for cryptic you know federal reserve

3487
02:25:41,830 --> 02:25:39,760
announcements to see which way they're

3488
02:25:44,230 --> 02:25:41,840
leaning in terms of quantitative easing

3489
02:25:46,469 --> 02:25:44,240
no i want a money that i know

3490
02:25:49,110 --> 02:25:46,479
is not is impervious to all these

3491
02:25:51,429 --> 02:25:49,120
machinations and abuses so i think all

3492
02:25:53,750 --> 02:25:51,439
planets will have that and then you

3493
02:25:56,070 --> 02:25:53,760
start getting into what's called bitcoin

3494
02:25:57,349 --> 02:25:56,080
astronomy of

3495
02:26:00,550 --> 02:25:57,359
the sort of

3496
02:26:03,429 --> 02:26:00,560
more details of the likely development

3497
02:26:05,750 --> 02:26:03,439
paths for civilizations based on what

3498
02:26:07,910 --> 02:26:05,760
level of a kardashev civilization they

3499
02:26:11,429 --> 02:26:07,920
are are they using energy on a planetary

3500
02:26:13,429 --> 02:26:11,439
level of the stellar scale or galactic

3501
02:26:16,550 --> 02:26:13,439
and and the bitcoin

3502
02:26:19,190 --> 02:26:16,560
the equivalent of bitcoins will mirror

3503
02:26:21,349 --> 02:26:19,200
that level of development

3504
02:26:22,630 --> 02:26:21,359
before we are you gonna hang on for

3505
02:26:26,070 --> 02:26:22,640
overtime

3506
02:26:28,150 --> 02:26:26,080
sure okay good because this is starting

3507
02:26:29,590 --> 02:26:28,160
to get a little deep for me

3508
02:26:31,750 --> 02:26:29,600
and

3509
02:26:34,469 --> 02:26:31,760
there's this question

3510
02:26:36,469 --> 02:26:34,479
if we did

3511
02:26:39,030 --> 02:26:36,479
recover

3512
02:26:41,110 --> 02:26:39,040
technology let's go with roswell let's

3513
02:26:42,389 --> 02:26:41,120
just stay there because it's an easy

3514
02:26:45,429 --> 02:26:42,399
thing to say

3515
02:26:46,230 --> 02:26:45,439
printed circuit boards chips

3516
02:26:48,790 --> 02:26:46,240
uh

3517
02:26:49,950 --> 02:26:48,800
an operating system

3518
02:26:51,590 --> 02:26:49,960
did we

3519
02:26:54,230 --> 02:26:51,600
understand

3520
02:26:55,990 --> 02:26:54,240
that at that time that this was computer

3521
02:26:58,710 --> 02:26:56,000
that this there was a language here

3522
02:26:59,990 --> 02:26:58,720
there was an operating system that was

3523
02:27:04,630 --> 02:27:00,000
was there

3524
02:27:08,150 --> 02:27:04,640
and if we did do we now understand do we

3525
02:27:10,710 --> 02:27:08,160
have their their windows 11 operating

3526
02:27:15,670 --> 02:27:13,670
if we got a windows operating system

3527
02:27:18,070 --> 02:27:15,680
from an alien race we need to sort of

3528
02:27:19,590 --> 02:27:18,080
trade up to a better alien race i would

3529
02:27:21,990 --> 02:27:19,600
think

3530
02:27:23,270 --> 02:27:22,000
you understand what i'm saying and and

3531
02:27:26,389 --> 02:27:23,280
so

3532
02:27:28,950 --> 02:27:26,399
would we um uh not establish what we

3533
02:27:31,590 --> 02:27:28,960
have today off of that but i'm saying

3534
02:27:36,710 --> 02:27:31,600
have an understanding of

3535
02:27:40,070 --> 02:27:37,590
you know

3536
02:27:42,710 --> 02:27:40,080
it gets back to

3537
02:27:43,510 --> 02:27:42,720
what will

3538
02:27:47,750 --> 02:27:43,520
their

3539
02:27:50,550 --> 02:27:47,760
consciousness and

3540
02:27:52,389 --> 02:27:50,560
uh understanding of computation be like

3541
02:27:55,510 --> 02:27:52,399
and it's likely to be so radically

3542
02:27:56,710 --> 02:27:55,520
different and so far advanced beyond us

3543
02:28:00,550 --> 02:27:56,720
that

3544
02:28:03,030 --> 02:28:00,560
even their superior level of technology

3545
02:28:04,950 --> 02:28:03,040
may not be able to allow them to dumb it

3546
02:28:06,870 --> 02:28:04,960
down for our level is that like that

3547
02:28:09,750 --> 02:28:06,880
michael sherman point about that sort of

3548
02:28:11,190 --> 02:28:09,760
coupling of being you know vaguely near

3549
02:28:13,830 --> 02:28:11,200
each other to be able to understand it

3550
02:28:16,070 --> 02:28:13,840
yeah right right and you know we're uh

3551
02:28:19,190 --> 02:28:16,080
silicon based and

3552
02:28:21,590 --> 02:28:19,200
and how our chipsets are are made today

3553
02:28:23,910 --> 02:28:21,600
and how they were developed even the

3554
02:28:26,630 --> 02:28:23,920
transistors right and and original

3555
02:28:27,750 --> 02:28:26,640
capacitors and and what i'm suggesting

3556
02:28:31,270 --> 02:28:27,760
here is

3557
02:28:33,750 --> 02:28:31,280
those chips may visually look like

3558
02:28:35,830 --> 02:28:33,760
something that we manufacture here on

3559
02:28:37,990 --> 02:28:35,840
earth or eventually did but they could

3560
02:28:40,790 --> 02:28:38,000
have a completely different

3561
02:28:42,790 --> 02:28:40,800
uh manufacturing process with a a

3562
02:28:44,550 --> 02:28:42,800
different

3563
02:28:47,349 --> 02:28:44,560
you know what i mean it could maybe even

3564
02:28:49,910 --> 02:28:47,359
be biological and and something that we

3565
02:28:51,429 --> 02:28:49,920
just completely don't understand

3566
02:28:54,469 --> 02:28:51,439
yeah you know we're on the verge of of

3567
02:28:57,990 --> 02:28:54,479
quantum computing there's also you know

3568
02:29:00,230 --> 02:28:58,000
biological synthetic so right

3569
02:29:02,150 --> 02:29:00,240
you know once and there are if you get

3570
02:29:04,550 --> 02:29:02,160
to quantum computing that's

3571
02:29:05,349 --> 02:29:04,560
qualitatively more than we have now

3572
02:29:08,070 --> 02:29:05,359
um

3573
02:29:09,670 --> 02:29:08,080
we how would we understand that and

3574
02:29:12,230 --> 02:29:09,680
so there's just

3575
02:29:14,309 --> 02:29:12,240
some non-trivial issues

3576
02:29:16,230 --> 02:29:14,319
with us being able to effectively

3577
02:29:17,750 --> 02:29:16,240
communicate with an alien civilization

3578
02:29:19,270 --> 02:29:17,760
whether it's just communication or we

3579
02:29:21,510 --> 02:29:19,280
get to the point where we're doing trade

3580
02:29:23,590 --> 02:29:21,520
or whatever i think there are some

3581
02:29:26,309 --> 02:29:23,600
things that we've discovered that are

3582
02:29:28,790 --> 02:29:26,319
mathematical based which are more likely

3583
02:29:31,349 --> 02:29:28,800
to be understood and or vaguely

3584
02:29:33,030 --> 02:29:31,359
compatible with how they communicate now

3585
02:29:35,590 --> 02:29:33,040
um and i love

3586
02:29:36,870 --> 02:29:35,600
when we get into the non-trivial

3587
02:29:39,510 --> 02:29:36,880
zone here

3588
02:29:42,710 --> 02:29:39,520
um and when we talk about something

3589
02:29:45,830 --> 02:29:42,720
ginormous like that

3590
02:29:47,910 --> 02:29:45,840
quantum computing and how qubits

3591
02:29:49,510 --> 02:29:47,920
actually work

3592
02:29:51,990 --> 02:29:49,520
and you know with

3593
02:29:54,550 --> 02:29:52,000
some type of entanglement where i don't

3594
02:29:57,510 --> 02:29:54,560
even think that in the world of physics

3595
02:29:59,590 --> 02:29:57,520
we fully understand it but clearly

3596
02:30:02,389 --> 02:29:59,600
qubits work

3597
02:30:04,550 --> 02:30:02,399
how they work i'm not even sure that we

3598
02:30:07,670 --> 02:30:04,560
we've measured that yet

3599
02:30:09,750 --> 02:30:07,680
in that in that form of physics

3600
02:30:13,590 --> 02:30:09,760
yeah you get to the it's all about like

3601
02:30:15,190 --> 02:30:13,600
probabilities right and observations um

3602
02:30:16,710 --> 02:30:15,200
and entanglement

3603
02:30:18,950 --> 02:30:16,720
um it just

3604
02:30:21,349 --> 02:30:18,960
that's as it's just mind-blowing it's

3605
02:30:23,990 --> 02:30:21,359
hard to understand

3606
02:30:26,230 --> 02:30:24,000
i mean i don't understand quantum stuff

3607
02:30:27,990 --> 02:30:26,240
i just know it's it's super complicated

3608
02:30:29,990 --> 02:30:28,000
that's that's it i just

3609
02:30:32,710 --> 02:30:30,000
i have a hard time grocking it

3610
02:30:36,469 --> 02:30:32,720
personally yeah

3611
02:30:39,590 --> 02:30:36,479
talk about non-trivial right and and

3612
02:30:41,910 --> 02:30:39,600
i'm not sure

3613
02:30:43,670 --> 02:30:41,920
that even they fully understand that

3614
02:30:45,990 --> 02:30:43,680
they just know that they can make it

3615
02:30:48,710 --> 02:30:46,000
work right but if you're getting into

3616
02:30:50,870 --> 02:30:48,720
parallel worlds and entanglement and how

3617
02:30:51,750 --> 02:30:50,880
a cubit actually

3618
02:30:57,030 --> 02:30:51,760
is

3619
02:30:58,150 --> 02:30:57,040
the world of science fiction yeah and

3620
02:31:00,630 --> 02:30:58,160
that's sort of like you know the first

3621
02:31:03,990 --> 02:31:00,640
level of understanding is you're able to

3622
02:31:06,710 --> 02:31:04,000
make and that's what science tries to do

3623
02:31:08,870 --> 02:31:06,720
make some predictive capacity okay hey

3624
02:31:10,469 --> 02:31:08,880
we know the sun's going to be there but

3625
02:31:12,550 --> 02:31:10,479
we didn't know why at first we thought

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02:31:14,550 --> 02:31:12,560
of a geocentric point of view at first

3627
02:31:15,670 --> 02:31:14,560
we didn't know that the earth revolves

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02:31:18,469 --> 02:31:15,680
around the sun

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02:31:20,550 --> 02:31:18,479
as long as once you can make predictive

3630
02:31:21,830 --> 02:31:20,560
capacities that can help you understand

3631
02:31:25,110 --> 02:31:21,840
what's happening

3632
02:31:27,670 --> 02:31:25,120
that's helpful the next level of why

3633
02:31:28,870 --> 02:31:27,680
that's often far more difficult it's the

3634
02:31:30,790 --> 02:31:28,880
same thing with software i mean i've

3635
02:31:31,830 --> 02:31:30,800
been a software engineer i've designed

3636
02:31:33,590 --> 02:31:31,840
software

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02:31:34,790 --> 02:31:33,600
lots of times i can get it to do what i

3638
02:31:36,710 --> 02:31:34,800
wanted to do

3639
02:31:38,950 --> 02:31:36,720
but i can't always figure out why it's

3640
02:31:41,349 --> 02:31:38,960
doing it or why it's going wrong and

3641
02:31:43,670 --> 02:31:41,359
does that matter right

3642
02:31:45,590 --> 02:31:43,680
as long as it's reliable no then i don't

3643
02:31:47,110 --> 02:31:45,600
want to upset the apple cart

3644
02:31:49,190 --> 02:31:47,120
um and one one thing i've noticed with

3645
02:31:51,110 --> 02:31:49,200
software is that

3646
02:31:53,110 --> 02:31:51,120
and i've done like you know macros and

3647
02:31:55,349 --> 02:31:53,120
excel things i got vba not really

3648
02:31:57,190 --> 02:31:55,359
hardcore programming but i have a

3649
02:31:59,190 --> 02:31:57,200
program that does financial projections

3650
02:32:01,429 --> 02:31:59,200
for startups and

3651
02:32:02,710 --> 02:32:01,439
sometimes i look at that and i did it

3652
02:32:04,309 --> 02:32:02,720
all by myself

3653
02:32:06,389 --> 02:32:04,319
which sometimes people can say yeah i

3654
02:32:09,190 --> 02:32:06,399
can see you did it by yourself dummy but

3655
02:32:10,630 --> 02:32:09,200
i look at that and it sometimes it's

3656
02:32:12,710 --> 02:32:10,640
smarter than me

3657
02:32:15,270 --> 02:32:12,720
and here's why because

3658
02:32:16,950 --> 02:32:15,280
i didn't use my average self every day

3659
02:32:19,349 --> 02:32:16,960
for like one month i'd work on one

3660
02:32:22,230 --> 02:32:19,359
section of it and i'd only take the best

3661
02:32:25,030 --> 02:32:22,240
parts of me from that month so that

3662
02:32:27,510 --> 02:32:25,040
software represents a compilation of the

3663
02:32:30,070 --> 02:32:27,520
best parts of me from each month which

3664
02:32:32,950 --> 02:32:30,080
is far better than my average self so

3665
02:32:35,349 --> 02:32:32,960
something that i created by myself

3666
02:32:38,469 --> 02:32:35,359
is when i look at it on an average day

3667
02:32:40,469 --> 02:32:38,479
sometimes better than me of course then

3668
02:32:42,790 --> 02:32:40,479
five years later i've learned a lot more

3669
02:32:44,550 --> 02:32:42,800
and i say oh my gosh that junkie code

3670
02:32:46,309 --> 02:32:44,560
but it's an interesting emergent

3671
02:32:48,070 --> 02:32:46,319
property that something you create by

3672
02:32:50,830 --> 02:32:48,080
yourself can

3673
02:32:52,870 --> 02:32:50,840
seem to you to transcend your own

3674
02:32:54,790 --> 02:32:52,880
capabilities that's why it would take me

3675
02:32:57,990 --> 02:32:54,800
10 years to write a book

3676
02:33:01,270 --> 02:32:58,000
because i could only take the best stuff

3677
02:33:04,870 --> 02:33:01,280
one sentence at a time and compile it

3678
02:33:06,550 --> 02:33:04,880
jimmy that's a great book not really

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02:33:08,389 --> 02:33:06,560
let's take our break right here this is

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02:33:09,990 --> 02:33:08,399
fade to black our guest tonight paul

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02:33:12,150 --> 02:33:10,000
heineck we're going to go into overtime

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02:33:15,349 --> 02:33:12,160
and continue this conversation

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02:33:17,910 --> 02:33:15,359
bitcoin and ufos this is fade to black

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on the game changer and on x networks

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and uh tomorrow night isaac arthur

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02:33:25,190 --> 02:33:22,880
physicist is going to be here exoplanets

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02:33:28,030 --> 02:33:25,200
and e.t i'm your host jimmy church we'll

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02:38:37,429 --> 02:38:35,270
welcome back fade to black i'm your host

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02:38:40,309 --> 02:38:37,439
jimmy church tonight paul heineck

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02:38:42,469 --> 02:38:40,319
and uh bitcoin in ufos and we're into

3783
02:38:44,950 --> 02:38:42,479
overtime and

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02:38:46,790 --> 02:38:44,960
apollo i usually like to loosen up a

3785
02:38:49,590 --> 02:38:46,800
little bit but we're always loose uh

3786
02:38:51,510 --> 02:38:49,600
when we get into overtime i wanted to

3787
02:38:53,830 --> 02:38:51,520
mention this to you i'm reading a book

3788
02:38:56,389 --> 02:38:53,840
it was published back in 2018. i don't

3789
02:38:59,110 --> 02:38:56,399
have the direct title in front of me but

3790
02:39:01,590 --> 02:38:59,120
it's called aliens with the subtitle

3791
02:39:03,349 --> 02:39:01,600
and it's different physicists scientists

3792
02:39:05,590 --> 02:39:03,359
and intellectuals outside of our

3793
02:39:06,550 --> 02:39:05,600
community uh around the world

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02:39:09,990 --> 02:39:06,560
uh

3795
02:39:11,190 --> 02:39:10,000
it's like 30 chapters and different

3796
02:39:13,990 --> 02:39:11,200
essays

3797
02:39:16,070 --> 02:39:14,000
and in one of the chapters

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02:39:17,030 --> 02:39:16,080
it's it's about your dad

3799
02:39:25,349 --> 02:39:17,040
and

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02:39:28,389 --> 02:39:25,359
kind

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02:39:31,110 --> 02:39:28,399
and and their breakdown of it and it was

3802
02:39:31,990 --> 02:39:31,120
it's it's a very interesting read

3803
02:39:36,070 --> 02:39:32,000
to

3804
02:39:38,790 --> 02:39:36,080
because i think that we all have our

3805
02:39:40,790 --> 02:39:38,800
our own uh emotional

3806
02:39:43,429 --> 02:39:40,800
uh connections to it and what it means

3807
02:39:46,150 --> 02:39:43,439
to us but but to have the intellectuals

3808
02:39:49,670 --> 02:39:46,160
comment on it was very interesting

3809
02:39:50,870 --> 02:39:49,680
and there was another uh part to this in

3810
02:39:53,429 --> 02:39:50,880
this book

3811
02:39:55,429 --> 02:39:53,439
um before i

3812
02:39:56,710 --> 02:39:55,439
read the book i have commented over the

3813
02:39:57,910 --> 02:39:56,720
years and this is where i want your

3814
02:39:59,670 --> 02:39:57,920
opinion

3815
02:40:01,750 --> 02:39:59,680
is that e.t

3816
02:40:04,630 --> 02:40:01,760
no matter how advanced

3817
02:40:08,550 --> 02:40:04,640
would have to have gone through

3818
02:40:09,990 --> 02:40:08,560
the same evolutionary processes that we

3819
02:40:13,269 --> 02:40:10,000
have gone through

3820
02:40:14,389 --> 02:40:13,279
right amoebas to whatever

3821
02:40:16,950 --> 02:40:14,399
and

3822
02:40:18,830 --> 02:40:16,960
does would that mean

3823
02:40:21,030 --> 02:40:18,840
that they went

3824
02:40:22,469 --> 02:40:21,040
through comedy

3825
02:40:25,990 --> 02:40:22,479
theater

3826
02:40:30,550 --> 02:40:26,000
music sculpture the arts

3827
02:40:35,670 --> 02:40:32,630
they would have does that mean that e.t

3828
02:40:38,150 --> 02:40:35,680
would have a sense of humor

3829
02:40:40,309 --> 02:40:38,160
what a great question you know that gets

3830
02:40:42,389 --> 02:40:40,319
back to the gets back to the idea of

3831
02:40:44,870 --> 02:40:42,399
convergent evolution right from richard

3832
02:40:47,110 --> 02:40:44,880
darwin from um um

3833
02:40:49,910 --> 02:40:47,120
richard dawkins so

3834
02:40:53,269 --> 02:40:49,920
for us as primates

3835
02:40:54,469 --> 02:40:53,279
these notions of humor and reciprocity

3836
02:40:56,150 --> 02:40:54,479
and art

3837
02:40:58,309 --> 02:40:56,160
have an evolutionary advantage because

3838
02:41:01,110 --> 02:40:58,319
we're social creatures right we're not

3839
02:41:02,870 --> 02:41:01,120
just living by ourselves and these ways

3840
02:41:04,230 --> 02:41:02,880
to tie us into

3841
02:41:07,030 --> 02:41:04,240
the community

3842
02:41:10,790 --> 02:41:07,040
have proven from a merciless

3843
02:41:12,389 --> 02:41:10,800
evolutionary point of view to have value

3844
02:41:13,750 --> 02:41:12,399
i could see

3845
02:41:17,030 --> 02:41:13,760
another

3846
02:41:19,349 --> 02:41:17,040
civilization in roughly similar

3847
02:41:21,269 --> 02:41:19,359
environmental situations

3848
02:41:24,309 --> 02:41:21,279
developing along a different path that

3849
02:41:27,030 --> 02:41:24,319
wasn't as socially focused and may not

3850
02:41:30,469 --> 02:41:27,040
place weight on things like that or have

3851
02:41:32,630 --> 02:41:30,479
an evolutionary luxury like humor

3852
02:41:34,870 --> 02:41:32,640
you know it's a good question is humor

3853
02:41:36,950 --> 02:41:34,880
the way we think of it

3854
02:41:39,030 --> 02:41:36,960
universal and one of the reasons i think

3855
02:41:41,190 --> 02:41:39,040
it might be is that

3856
02:41:42,230 --> 02:41:41,200
a really good definition of humor to me

3857
02:41:44,950 --> 02:41:42,240
is

3858
02:41:47,349 --> 02:41:44,960
an unexpected connection so like a joke

3859
02:41:49,670 --> 02:41:47,359
for example like puns are plays on words

3860
02:41:51,269 --> 02:41:49,680
right and they they make you groan

3861
02:41:53,910 --> 02:41:51,279
a joke

3862
02:41:55,910 --> 02:41:53,920
is where you tell a story

3863
02:41:57,830 --> 02:41:55,920
and then you change the story or the

3864
02:42:00,230 --> 02:41:57,840
explanation so one example very short

3865
02:42:03,349 --> 02:42:00,240
joke is oh i'm really depressed you know

3866
02:42:05,269 --> 02:42:03,359
my wife ran off with my best friend

3867
02:42:06,150 --> 02:42:05,279
and i really miss him

3868
02:42:08,469 --> 02:42:06,160
right

3869
02:42:10,550 --> 02:42:08,479
so the the humor there is not word play

3870
02:42:12,950 --> 02:42:10,560
but you start a story

3871
02:42:15,030 --> 02:42:12,960
and then you finish it with a logically

3872
02:42:16,150 --> 02:42:15,040
consistent ending

3873
02:42:18,710 --> 02:42:16,160
and that

3874
02:42:20,469 --> 02:42:18,720
twist for some reason we interpret as

3875
02:42:23,349 --> 02:42:20,479
humor because there's that connection

3876
02:42:25,510 --> 02:42:23,359
made so with that it seems like it's a

3877
02:42:27,670 --> 02:42:25,520
fairly universal construct

3878
02:42:30,790 --> 02:42:27,680
now they may have a more body sense of

3879
02:42:32,790 --> 02:42:30,800
humor than us or i don't know but i i

3880
02:42:35,990 --> 02:42:32,800
wouldn't be surprised if some form of

3881
02:42:38,150 --> 02:42:36,000
humor even in a civilization that didn't

3882
02:42:41,110 --> 02:42:38,160
have that didn't weigh

3883
02:42:43,510 --> 02:42:41,120
um social connections as much probably

3884
02:42:46,389 --> 02:42:43,520
would exist be kind of a boring place

3885
02:42:48,710 --> 02:42:46,399
without it i i asked bashar once you

3886
02:42:49,910 --> 02:42:48,720
know darylanka you know bashar i asked

3887
02:42:52,309 --> 02:42:49,920
bashar said

3888
02:42:55,510 --> 02:42:52,319
does et have a sense of humor

3889
02:42:58,389 --> 02:42:55,520
and uh he goes we're laughing at you

3890
02:43:05,030 --> 02:42:59,750
and

3891
02:43:06,230 --> 02:43:05,040
the other thing i i love overtime

3892
02:43:09,030 --> 02:43:06,240
because

3893
02:43:11,349 --> 02:43:09,040
of of these types of questions but

3894
02:43:13,349 --> 02:43:11,359
if you are spanning space

3895
02:43:16,150 --> 02:43:13,359
you are interstellar

3896
02:43:18,389 --> 02:43:16,160
and you may be traveling at faster than

3897
02:43:19,190 --> 02:43:18,399
the speed of light but you're still

3898
02:43:21,190 --> 02:43:19,200
uh

3899
02:43:23,030 --> 02:43:21,200
if you're not bending space right if you

3900
02:43:25,910 --> 02:43:23,040
are just in a linear

3901
02:43:27,349 --> 02:43:25,920
uh you're in a nuts and bolts craft and

3902
02:43:29,110 --> 02:43:27,359
and hauling

3903
02:43:30,710 --> 02:43:29,120
uh hauling

3904
02:43:31,750 --> 02:43:30,720
you know the word i want to use between

3905
02:43:33,590 --> 02:43:31,760
stars

3906
02:43:35,429 --> 02:43:33,600
you're still there for thousands of

3907
02:43:37,750 --> 02:43:35,439
years

3908
02:43:40,710 --> 02:43:37,760
are you doing that in silence

3909
02:43:42,870 --> 02:43:40,720
or are you piping in music right

3910
02:43:46,389 --> 02:43:42,880
i mean or are you in this cold like you

3911
02:43:48,870 --> 02:43:46,399
said body right this cold environment

3912
02:43:52,389 --> 02:43:48,880
without visual stimulation on the walls

3913
02:43:54,790 --> 02:43:52,399
and artwork and and music coming in or

3914
02:43:57,269 --> 02:43:54,800
are you in this sterile craft with

3915
02:43:58,150 --> 02:43:57,279
nothing happening with no emotion

3916
02:43:58,870 --> 02:43:58,160
or

3917
02:44:00,309 --> 02:43:58,880
so

3918
02:44:02,550 --> 02:44:00,319
you know we all know the drake equation

3919
02:44:05,830 --> 02:44:02,560
which is a equation to come up with a

3920
02:44:09,190 --> 02:44:05,840
theoretical result for the number of

3921
02:44:10,309 --> 02:44:09,200
civilizations in our solar system in the

3922
02:44:12,550 --> 02:44:10,319
galaxy

3923
02:44:13,830 --> 02:44:12,560
that we think may have detectable

3924
02:44:15,269 --> 02:44:13,840
civilizations

3925
02:44:17,269 --> 02:44:15,279
so that's like millions and millions and

3926
02:44:20,309 --> 02:44:17,279
millions then you have the fermi paradox

3927
02:44:22,469 --> 02:44:20,319
that says well why haven't we seen

3928
02:44:23,830 --> 02:44:22,479
more conclusive proof of them or

3929
02:44:26,309 --> 02:44:23,840
detected that

3930
02:44:27,750 --> 02:44:26,319
then you have the transcension

3931
02:44:29,190 --> 02:44:27,760
hypothesis

3932
02:44:29,990 --> 02:44:29,200
and this gets to your point about what's

3933
02:44:35,349 --> 02:44:30,000
that

3934
02:44:37,190 --> 02:44:35,359
well the transcension hypothesis says

3935
02:44:39,269 --> 02:44:37,200
that they've gotten to a point in their

3936
02:44:41,910 --> 02:44:39,279
technological evolution

3937
02:44:45,429 --> 02:44:41,920
where they can sort of go inwards kind

3938
02:44:48,710 --> 02:44:45,439
of like a metaverse a vr world

3939
02:44:51,190 --> 02:44:48,720
far beyond clunky headsets and all that

3940
02:44:53,990 --> 02:44:51,200
where they can go inside there

3941
02:44:56,230 --> 02:44:54,000
and have any experience that they want

3942
02:44:58,309 --> 02:44:56,240
such that they don't need to go johnning

3943
02:45:01,429 --> 02:44:58,319
around the universe to get our gold or

3944
02:45:03,429 --> 02:45:01,439
our water or look for

3945
02:45:06,469 --> 02:45:03,439
you know movies or anything that they

3946
02:45:07,830 --> 02:45:06,479
have the richness of an interior

3947
02:45:10,550 --> 02:45:07,840
universe

3948
02:45:12,790 --> 02:45:10,560
inside wherever they are so maybe that's

3949
02:45:13,670 --> 02:45:12,800
where they're going to concerts

3950
02:45:16,870 --> 02:45:13,680
uh

3951
02:45:18,230 --> 02:45:16,880
an mp3 player with everything

3952
02:45:19,910 --> 02:45:18,240
yeah right

3953
02:45:21,750 --> 02:45:19,920
everything any kind of experience that

3954
02:45:22,790 --> 02:45:21,760
you can imagine you know for us as

3955
02:45:24,389 --> 02:45:22,800
humans

3956
02:45:27,030 --> 02:45:24,399
the brain doesn't know that a dream

3957
02:45:30,150 --> 02:45:27,040
isn't real it's just electrical signals

3958
02:45:31,590 --> 02:45:30,160
so you can have a

3959
02:45:33,910 --> 02:45:31,600
super rich

3960
02:45:36,230 --> 02:45:33,920
virtual reality environment in which

3961
02:45:38,230 --> 02:45:36,240
your brain doesn't know it's not real

3962
02:45:39,510 --> 02:45:38,240
you know virtual reality i i like the

3963
02:45:41,910 --> 02:45:39,520
the sort of quick

3964
02:45:44,389 --> 02:45:41,920
difference between augmented reality is

3965
02:45:47,190 --> 02:45:44,399
virtual reality is we as the analog

3966
02:45:48,710 --> 02:45:47,200
creatures go into a digital realm and

3967
02:45:50,150 --> 02:45:48,720
right now it's just kind of

3968
02:45:50,950 --> 02:45:50,160
uncomfortable to stay there for a long

3969
02:45:53,269 --> 02:45:50,960
time

3970
02:45:56,150 --> 02:45:53,279
augmented reality is where we have

3971
02:45:58,389 --> 02:45:56,160
digital elements overlaid in our analog

3972
02:46:01,510 --> 02:45:58,399
world at some point those will converge

3973
02:46:04,150 --> 02:46:01,520
people call it mixed you know mixed our

3974
02:46:05,030 --> 02:46:04,160
xr for example and it's going to be so

3975
02:46:07,030 --> 02:46:05,040
rich

3976
02:46:09,030 --> 02:46:07,040
that well beyond haptics and other

3977
02:46:12,550 --> 02:46:09,040
technologies that you won't know that

3978
02:46:13,590 --> 02:46:12,560
it's not real do you uh do you have a vr

3979
02:46:15,190 --> 02:46:13,600
headset

3980
02:46:16,469 --> 02:46:15,200
i do you do

3981
02:46:19,190 --> 02:46:16,479
um

3982
02:46:21,990 --> 02:46:19,200
when was the last time you put it on

3983
02:46:22,790 --> 02:46:22,000
it's been it's been a while now um

3984
02:46:25,269 --> 02:46:22,800
and

3985
02:46:26,389 --> 02:46:25,279
you know i'll tell you i've got a very

3986
02:46:28,230 --> 02:46:26,399
complicated but an interesting

3987
02:46:30,070 --> 02:46:28,240
relationship with the vr you know i i

3988
02:46:32,389 --> 02:46:30,080
mentioned i worked on avatar and we used

3989
02:46:34,150 --> 02:46:32,399
vr in the making of avatar there's a

3990
02:46:35,910 --> 02:46:34,160
virtual production pipeline so for like

3991
02:46:37,349 --> 02:46:35,920
lord of the rings planet of the apes

3992
02:46:39,990 --> 02:46:37,359
avatar

3993
02:46:42,230 --> 02:46:40,000
we made those movies using vr in the

3994
02:46:45,429 --> 02:46:42,240
production of that so i sort of

3995
02:46:47,269 --> 02:46:45,439
developed this sense of that 3d volume

3996
02:46:49,510 --> 02:46:47,279
even though the movies weren't shown in

3997
02:46:53,110 --> 02:46:49,520
vr so then i started working a lot more

3998
02:46:55,510 --> 02:46:53,120
in vr and ar and i really gravitated

3999
02:46:57,429 --> 02:46:55,520
vr for me for entertainment is okay

4000
02:46:59,830 --> 02:46:57,439
but i'm really much more interested in

4001
02:47:01,349 --> 02:46:59,840
medical uses and i helped

4002
02:47:03,830 --> 02:47:01,359
usc

4003
02:47:06,070 --> 02:47:03,840
use vr in their stroke recovery

4004
02:47:07,429 --> 02:47:06,080
technology and that was fascinating

4005
02:47:10,150 --> 02:47:07,439
because you have somebody who's let's

4006
02:47:12,150 --> 02:47:10,160
say their left arm is paralyzed and in

4007
02:47:14,469 --> 02:47:12,160
some cases and i don't know that much

4008
02:47:17,590 --> 02:47:14,479
about strokes but in some cases it's an

4009
02:47:20,389 --> 02:47:17,600
electrical circuit it's a short circuit

4010
02:47:21,830 --> 02:47:20,399
the muscular system is is fine so the

4011
02:47:24,309 --> 02:47:21,840
patient comes in

4012
02:47:26,469 --> 02:47:24,319
puts on the vr headset there's an ekg

4013
02:47:29,030 --> 02:47:26,479
and an emg on their arm

4014
02:47:30,950 --> 02:47:29,040
and what's happened is the motor cortex

4015
02:47:32,950 --> 02:47:30,960
in the brain

4016
02:47:35,429 --> 02:47:32,960
is not sending signals to the arm

4017
02:47:37,670 --> 02:47:35,439
because the sensory nerve impulses are

4018
02:47:38,469 --> 02:47:37,680
not coming back so the brain doesn't

4019
02:47:40,710 --> 02:47:38,479
know

4020
02:47:42,950 --> 02:47:40,720
where the arm is where it's going if

4021
02:47:45,269 --> 02:47:42,960
it's in pain or hot or cold so it says

4022
02:47:47,110 --> 02:47:45,279
i'm not sending instructions because i

4023
02:47:49,910 --> 02:47:47,120
don't know what's going on but then you

4024
02:47:52,870 --> 02:47:49,920
do the vr you put on the goggles and you

4025
02:47:53,670 --> 02:47:52,880
see a virtual representation of your arm

4026
02:47:58,790 --> 02:47:53,680
and

4027
02:48:01,110 --> 02:47:58,800
symbols it gives instructions to the

4028
02:48:03,429 --> 02:48:01,120
virtual arm to move to where it wants to

4029
02:48:06,469 --> 02:48:03,439
go and then we made sort of

4030
02:48:09,670 --> 02:48:06,479
a auditory vocabulary to indicate that

4031
02:48:14,870 --> 02:48:12,550
and so now the brain is showing it's

4032
02:48:16,870 --> 02:48:14,880
getting feedback and it's moving the

4033
02:48:18,309 --> 02:48:16,880
virtual representation of the arm to

4034
02:48:20,230 --> 02:48:18,319
where it wants to go

4035
02:48:22,870 --> 02:48:20,240
and what happens is

4036
02:48:25,269 --> 02:48:22,880
the motor cortex says that's interesting

4037
02:48:26,710 --> 02:48:25,279
i'm getting some kind of weird feedback

4038
02:48:28,710 --> 02:48:26,720
here from the arm

4039
02:48:30,630 --> 02:48:28,720
i'm going to lean into this a little bit

4040
02:48:32,950 --> 02:48:30,640
and start sending out

4041
02:48:34,550 --> 02:48:32,960
motor nerve impulses that are stronger

4042
02:48:36,790 --> 02:48:34,560
and you do that over and over and over

4043
02:48:40,309 --> 02:48:36,800
that feedback loop and eventually what

4044
02:48:43,670 --> 02:48:40,319
happens is it can restart the dormant

4045
02:48:45,670 --> 02:48:43,680
sensory nerves and they start flowing

4046
02:48:48,469 --> 02:48:45,680
and the overall functionality is

4047
02:48:50,110 --> 02:48:48,479
restored with no scalpels and no drugs

4048
02:48:52,309 --> 02:48:50,120
just using the inherent

4049
02:48:55,510 --> 02:48:52,319
neuroplasticity of the brain to

4050
02:48:56,830 --> 02:48:55,520
regenerate itself i um

4051
02:48:58,230 --> 02:48:56,840
i can't say

4052
02:49:01,910 --> 02:48:58,240
who uh

4053
02:49:04,550 --> 02:49:01,920
i i believed i signed uh i signed an nda

4054
02:49:08,309 --> 02:49:04,560
sorry what does it rhyme with i can't

4055
02:49:09,830 --> 02:49:08,319
say who but i a few months ago

4056
02:49:12,630 --> 02:49:09,840
i was

4057
02:49:14,070 --> 02:49:12,640
given a demonstration of some new

4058
02:49:17,670 --> 02:49:14,080
technology

4059
02:49:20,150 --> 02:49:17,680
and so i i got i

4060
02:49:21,190 --> 02:49:20,160
got the basic setup on

4061
02:49:25,349 --> 02:49:21,200
uh

4062
02:49:27,110 --> 02:49:25,359
the headset but hand controls and and

4063
02:49:29,910 --> 02:49:27,120
some other stuff

4064
02:49:31,990 --> 02:49:29,920
and went into a few different worlds

4065
02:49:34,230 --> 02:49:32,000
they let me check out a few different

4066
02:49:36,550 --> 02:49:34,240
examples of this uh that they wanted to

4067
02:49:38,830 --> 02:49:36,560
show me the the demonstrations of

4068
02:49:42,710 --> 02:49:38,840
and here's the thing

4069
02:49:45,830 --> 02:49:42,720
um there was uh uh

4070
02:49:47,670 --> 02:49:45,840
a specific art that you could create now

4071
02:49:49,990 --> 02:49:47,680
you had to be there right it's like

4072
02:49:51,990 --> 02:49:50,000
really trippy stuff but things that are

4073
02:49:54,389 --> 02:49:52,000
dripping and you're you're interacting

4074
02:49:55,990 --> 02:49:54,399
with it and and moving it around there

4075
02:49:57,830 --> 02:49:56,000
was that that was

4076
02:50:01,269 --> 02:49:57,840
pretty freaking incredible

4077
02:50:04,070 --> 02:50:01,279
and as real as

4078
02:50:06,550 --> 02:50:04,080
anything it was pretty strange and

4079
02:50:08,710 --> 02:50:06,560
and because i could walk and move into

4080
02:50:10,309 --> 02:50:08,720
these environments then there was

4081
02:50:11,190 --> 02:50:10,319
another uh

4082
02:50:14,550 --> 02:50:11,200
uh

4083
02:50:17,990 --> 02:50:14,560
this artistic

4084
02:50:19,590 --> 02:50:18,000
uh thing it's it's it's hard to explain

4085
02:50:22,870 --> 02:50:19,600
animation

4086
02:50:24,550 --> 02:50:22,880
then there was this actual

4087
02:50:26,070 --> 02:50:24,560
3d

4088
02:50:28,230 --> 02:50:26,080
house

4089
02:50:30,870 --> 02:50:28,240
right and you could look outside of the

4090
02:50:32,230 --> 02:50:30,880
windows and you could walk around

4091
02:50:35,990 --> 02:50:32,240
but the

4092
02:50:37,429 --> 02:50:36,000
this wasn't computer generated generated

4093
02:50:39,030 --> 02:50:37,439
furniture

4094
02:50:40,790 --> 02:50:39,040
it was

4095
02:50:43,269 --> 02:50:40,800
videoed right you understand what i'm

4096
02:50:46,710 --> 02:50:43,279
saying in high def so everything is in

4097
02:50:48,150 --> 02:50:46,720
3d and it is it's not like oh okay it's

4098
02:50:50,469 --> 02:50:48,160
not like a

4099
02:50:54,230 --> 02:50:50,479
a video game

4100
02:50:55,990 --> 02:50:54,240
you're going through an actual

4101
02:50:58,150 --> 02:50:56,000
real environment

4102
02:51:01,030 --> 02:50:58,160
it it doesn't look visually different

4103
02:51:03,349 --> 02:51:01,040
than when like me sitting in here right

4104
02:51:06,150 --> 02:51:03,359
and and walking that

4105
02:51:07,429 --> 02:51:06,160
it was one of the trippiest things and

4106
02:51:09,670 --> 02:51:07,439
now here's

4107
02:51:12,550 --> 02:51:09,680
here's the funny part

4108
02:51:15,110 --> 02:51:12,560
they were videotaping me

4109
02:51:15,910 --> 02:51:15,120
going through this experience

4110
02:51:18,950 --> 02:51:15,920
so

4111
02:51:20,710 --> 02:51:18,960
after i'm done then i get to see

4112
02:51:23,349 --> 02:51:20,720
what i was doing

4113
02:51:24,950 --> 02:51:23,359
right with this gear on going through

4114
02:51:25,830 --> 02:51:24,960
these environments and doing these

4115
02:51:28,710 --> 02:51:25,840
things

4116
02:51:31,110 --> 02:51:28,720
and that was very strange because i know

4117
02:51:33,510 --> 02:51:31,120
that inside my head

4118
02:51:36,070 --> 02:51:33,520
i was actually there i really was there

4119
02:51:38,469 --> 02:51:36,080
wasn't any difference

4120
02:51:41,750 --> 02:51:38,479
to and when they say augmented reality

4121
02:51:45,110 --> 02:51:41,760
man it 100 was paul it was a

4122
02:51:47,349 --> 02:51:45,120
mind-blowing thing and to watch myself

4123
02:51:49,510 --> 02:51:47,359
in the video after that it was very

4124
02:51:51,110 --> 02:51:49,520
uncomfortable because i know what was

4125
02:51:53,990 --> 02:51:51,120
going on inside of my head i was

4126
02:51:54,790 --> 02:51:54,000
actually there it doesn't take a lot you

4127
02:51:56,309 --> 02:51:54,800
know

4128
02:51:57,910 --> 02:51:56,319
i've showed

4129
02:51:59,910 --> 02:51:57,920
thousands of people vr for the first

4130
02:52:01,110 --> 02:51:59,920
time on a phone and it's not high

4131
02:52:03,510 --> 02:52:01,120
resolution

4132
02:52:05,990 --> 02:52:03,520
but it doesn't take a lot

4133
02:52:07,269 --> 02:52:06,000
for people to feel in some way

4134
02:52:08,550 --> 02:52:07,279
transformed

4135
02:52:10,150 --> 02:52:08,560
in in a way

4136
02:52:13,190 --> 02:52:10,160
like one of my favorite things was to

4137
02:52:16,150 --> 02:52:13,200
show like palestinian refugee camps

4138
02:52:18,070 --> 02:52:16,160
new york times had compiled a large

4139
02:52:21,349 --> 02:52:18,080
library of images of this

4140
02:52:23,110 --> 02:52:21,359
and people see this right away and they

4141
02:52:24,950 --> 02:52:23,120
your brain knows i'm looking at fairly

4142
02:52:26,950 --> 02:52:24,960
grainy stuff on your phone

4143
02:52:29,110 --> 02:52:26,960
but it was enough

4144
02:52:32,150 --> 02:52:29,120
to transport people to feel like they're

4145
02:52:34,309 --> 02:52:32,160
there and it's a sort of empathy engine

4146
02:52:37,110 --> 02:52:34,319
that instead of looking at traditional

4147
02:52:38,790 --> 02:52:37,120
framed media seeing it in this sort of

4148
02:52:41,910 --> 02:52:38,800
way that sort of takes over

4149
02:52:45,510 --> 02:52:41,920
all of your eyes it got people to relate

4150
02:52:47,190 --> 02:52:45,520
to people in a much more fundamental way

4151
02:52:48,870 --> 02:52:47,200
and it's fascinating because it's just

4152
02:52:52,870 --> 02:52:48,880
electrical signals but

4153
02:52:55,349 --> 02:52:52,880
vr has that capacity to i think sort of

4154
02:52:57,990 --> 02:52:55,359
get past your your barriers to make you

4155
02:53:00,389 --> 02:52:58,000
not think of yourself as so different

4156
02:53:01,830 --> 02:53:00,399
from somebody because now you feel kind

4157
02:53:03,830 --> 02:53:01,840
of in their shoes and it's really

4158
02:53:05,429 --> 02:53:03,840
powerful sensation well what's the

4159
02:53:06,550 --> 02:53:05,439
difference

4160
02:53:07,830 --> 02:53:06,560
between

4161
02:53:09,910 --> 02:53:07,840
ar

4162
02:53:13,030 --> 02:53:09,920
or you know virtual you know vr it

4163
02:53:16,230 --> 02:53:13,040
doesn't matter and and our eyeballs

4164
02:53:19,190 --> 02:53:16,240
it's still electrical impulses that are

4165
02:53:21,590 --> 02:53:19,200
being interpreted by our brain yeah it

4166
02:53:22,950 --> 02:53:21,600
comes down to the visual cortex which

4167
02:53:24,950 --> 02:53:22,960
doesn't have

4168
02:53:26,950 --> 02:53:24,960
a lot of distinction between what it is

4169
02:53:28,550 --> 02:53:26,960
it's a it's a signal that goes there

4170
02:53:31,190 --> 02:53:28,560
right and the brain is recreating i

4171
02:53:33,030 --> 02:53:31,200
think like upside down in the back so

4172
02:53:34,630 --> 02:53:33,040
like a lucid dream right you've got this

4173
02:53:36,630 --> 02:53:34,640
sort of shut off valve in your brain

4174
02:53:37,349 --> 02:53:36,640
that says hey this is not real

4175
02:53:39,830 --> 02:53:37,359
now

4176
02:53:41,990 --> 02:53:39,840
the other sort of

4177
02:53:44,790 --> 02:53:42,000
aspect of this is psychedelic

4178
02:53:47,269 --> 02:53:44,800
experiences right which are

4179
02:53:49,990 --> 02:53:47,279
different types of input to the brain

4180
02:53:53,429 --> 02:53:50,000
and as you know i'm a big fan of

4181
02:53:54,309 --> 02:53:53,439
psychedelics and entheogenics like dmt

4182
02:53:55,750 --> 02:53:54,319
and

4183
02:53:57,990 --> 02:53:55,760
the question there is is that

4184
02:53:59,190 --> 02:53:58,000
objectively real what certainly feels

4185
02:54:01,510 --> 02:53:59,200
real to me

4186
02:54:02,950 --> 02:54:01,520
and even perhaps before we can determine

4187
02:54:04,630 --> 02:54:02,960
that which is another interest of mine

4188
02:54:07,750 --> 02:54:04,640
to actually determine that that's

4189
02:54:10,389 --> 02:54:07,760
objectively real is it's valid you know

4190
02:54:11,910 --> 02:54:10,399
psychedelics sort of got

4191
02:54:14,150 --> 02:54:11,920
made illegal but they're really coming

4192
02:54:16,150 --> 02:54:14,160
back in terms of clinical prestige in

4193
02:54:17,910 --> 02:54:16,160
terms of the real value that people can

4194
02:54:20,550 --> 02:54:17,920
have from these experiences whether

4195
02:54:21,830 --> 02:54:20,560
they're objectively real or not the

4196
02:54:23,830 --> 02:54:21,840
types of

4197
02:54:26,550 --> 02:54:23,840
feeling of connectedness

4198
02:54:27,910 --> 02:54:26,560
and of peace and of feeling that you see

4199
02:54:31,110 --> 02:54:27,920
the universe

4200
02:54:33,510 --> 02:54:31,120
are so powerful and these are again just

4201
02:54:36,150 --> 02:54:33,520
reduced to electrical signals in your

4202
02:54:37,750 --> 02:54:36,160
brain but you know they're there for

4203
02:54:41,030 --> 02:54:37,760
many people including myself just

4204
02:54:43,990 --> 02:54:41,040
transcendent experiences i

4205
02:54:47,349 --> 02:54:44,000
i have a mutual friend

4206
02:54:49,190 --> 02:54:47,359
of the two of us uh who i have a huge an

4207
02:54:50,870 --> 02:54:49,200
intellectual i have a huge amount of

4208
02:54:51,990 --> 02:54:50,880
respect for i can't say any more than

4209
02:54:53,590 --> 02:54:52,000
that

4210
02:54:55,590 --> 02:54:53,600
called me up

4211
02:54:58,550 --> 02:54:55,600
uh last year

4212
02:55:02,070 --> 02:54:58,560
and says jimmy

4213
02:55:05,269 --> 02:55:02,080
last night i smoked dmt

4214
02:55:06,870 --> 02:55:05,279
i talked to two aliens

4215
02:55:07,830 --> 02:55:06,880
i said what

4216
02:55:10,630 --> 02:55:07,840
right

4217
02:55:13,429 --> 02:55:10,640
i said you did what

4218
02:55:16,950 --> 02:55:13,439
i said would you he goes it's real

4219
02:55:17,910 --> 02:55:16,960
i go what do you mean the et's yeah were

4220
02:55:19,830 --> 02:55:17,920
real

4221
02:55:22,469 --> 02:55:19,840
i got no what are you saying you were

4222
02:55:26,150 --> 02:55:22,479
just no no jimmy

4223
02:55:27,510 --> 02:55:26,160
i'm telling you yeah right i went and

4224
02:55:29,190 --> 02:55:27,520
spoke

4225
02:55:31,110 --> 02:55:29,200
and sat down

4226
02:55:33,429 --> 02:55:31,120
with two et's what did they look like he

4227
02:55:37,190 --> 02:55:33,439
said they were white uh

4228
02:55:39,269 --> 02:55:37,200
uh uh uh how do bubbly robots

4229
02:55:41,269 --> 02:55:39,279
that's how he described it so i don't

4230
02:55:42,870 --> 02:55:41,279
know what that would mean

4231
02:55:46,790 --> 02:55:42,880
but he said that he sat and had this

4232
02:55:48,710 --> 02:55:46,800
conversation and he said when

4233
02:55:51,269 --> 02:55:48,720
he came out of it

4234
02:55:52,790 --> 02:55:51,279
and had to think about and he remembered

4235
02:55:55,110 --> 02:55:52,800
everything i'm telling you something

4236
02:55:58,309 --> 02:55:55,120
that you already know of course but

4237
02:56:01,670 --> 02:55:58,319
he said it scared the crap out of him

4238
02:56:04,630 --> 02:56:01,680
because it was as real as anything he

4239
02:56:06,710 --> 02:56:04,640
knows in in this reality of ours

4240
02:56:09,349 --> 02:56:06,720
yeah for me is the opposite

4241
02:56:11,750 --> 02:56:09,359
not feeling trapped there but of asking

4242
02:56:13,590 --> 02:56:11,760
if i could stay there forever it felt so

4243
02:56:16,630 --> 02:56:13,600
good he said he wouldn't do it again he

4244
02:56:18,309 --> 02:56:16,640
said he said no no no it's scary it's

4245
02:56:19,590 --> 02:56:18,319
different for different people i i saw a

4246
02:56:20,550 --> 02:56:19,600
comment in here

4247
02:56:21,910 --> 02:56:20,560
um

4248
02:56:23,670 --> 02:56:21,920
somebody mentioned

4249
02:56:25,429 --> 02:56:23,680
the movie the robin williams a guy named

4250
02:56:28,150 --> 02:56:25,439
zero cool or a woman named zero cool

4251
02:56:30,550 --> 02:56:28,160
mentioned the robin williams movie

4252
02:56:31,990 --> 02:56:30,560
and um where he walked through the

4253
02:56:34,870 --> 02:56:32,000
painted world

4254
02:56:37,349 --> 02:56:34,880
and that's a beautiful movie it's called

4255
02:56:39,349 --> 02:56:37,359
um what dreams may come yeah thank you

4256
02:56:41,830 --> 02:56:39,359
what dreams i blanked on it my brother

4257
02:56:45,030 --> 02:56:41,840
joel won an oscar

4258
02:56:48,230 --> 02:56:45,040
for visual effects for that movie

4259
02:56:51,110 --> 02:56:48,240
and it's this beautiful representation

4260
02:56:53,110 --> 02:56:51,120
of being in a painted world

4261
02:56:55,110 --> 02:56:53,120
and you can easily imagine that was

4262
02:56:57,030 --> 02:56:55,120
psychedelics but

4263
02:56:59,990 --> 02:56:57,040
it's probably not long before you could

4264
02:57:02,550 --> 02:57:00,000
have an equivalent experience like that

4265
02:57:03,750 --> 02:57:02,560
in some type of vr

4266
02:57:06,550 --> 02:57:03,760
environment

4267
02:57:12,389 --> 02:57:06,560
is dmt

4268
02:57:16,389 --> 02:57:12,399
setting

4269
02:57:18,870 --> 02:57:16,399
could help answer to physicist

4270
02:57:21,349 --> 02:57:18,880
access to a parallel world that that

4271
02:57:23,670 --> 02:57:21,359
does truly indeed exist

4272
02:57:25,429 --> 02:57:23,680
that's my hope so i mentioned i'd like

4273
02:57:27,670 --> 02:57:25,439
to do a classification system for

4274
02:57:30,070 --> 02:57:27,680
communications right but i'm also

4275
02:57:32,389 --> 02:57:30,080
working on developing a methodology for

4276
02:57:34,230 --> 02:57:32,399
experiencers whether it's dmt or lucid

4277
02:57:36,389 --> 02:57:34,240
dreams or ghosts or

4278
02:57:37,750 --> 02:57:36,399
ets or whatever it is because i think

4279
02:57:39,990 --> 02:57:37,760
they may all be connected so i don't

4280
02:57:42,230 --> 02:57:40,000
like to call them different things

4281
02:57:44,389 --> 02:57:42,240
but so that if you want because a lot of

4282
02:57:45,670 --> 02:57:44,399
experiences don't care what science has

4283
02:57:48,150 --> 02:57:45,680
to say about them but for some

4284
02:57:49,990 --> 02:57:48,160
experiencers they would like

4285
02:57:51,590 --> 02:57:50,000
somebody to say yes that's objectively

4286
02:57:55,190 --> 02:57:51,600
real right so i'm working on a

4287
02:57:58,150 --> 02:57:55,200
communications methodology to inculcate

4288
02:58:00,230 --> 02:57:58,160
into the experience or community such

4289
02:58:02,710 --> 02:58:00,240
that if they're going to have repeated

4290
02:58:05,510 --> 02:58:02,720
experiences with these super intelligent

4291
02:58:06,950 --> 02:58:05,520
entities they can go there with a

4292
02:58:09,830 --> 02:58:06,960
bespoke

4293
02:58:12,150 --> 02:58:09,840
curated science-friendly question like

4294
02:58:14,150 --> 02:58:12,160
factor this large prime number

4295
02:58:15,269 --> 02:58:14,160
and come back with an answer now it's

4296
02:58:17,590 --> 02:58:15,279
difficult because you don't always

4297
02:58:18,389 --> 02:58:17,600
control those situations i know right

4298
02:58:23,830 --> 02:58:18,399
but

4299
02:58:27,030 --> 02:58:23,840
father as a scientist i'm interested in

4300
02:58:28,070 --> 02:58:27,040
bringing science and these experiences

4301
02:58:30,710 --> 02:58:28,080
together

4302
02:58:33,429 --> 02:58:30,720
and i know scientists and i'd like to

4303
02:58:34,710 --> 02:58:33,439
say hey because if we take you know

4304
02:58:37,750 --> 02:58:34,720
random

4305
02:58:40,389 --> 02:58:37,760
materials to them or messages of warning

4306
02:58:41,990 --> 02:58:40,399
or your aunt ginny has the gout that

4307
02:58:44,710 --> 02:58:42,000
doesn't do anything for science but if

4308
02:58:47,670 --> 02:58:44,720
we have scientifically mathematically

4309
02:58:50,150 --> 02:58:47,680
unambiguous difficult questions that are

4310
02:58:52,070 --> 02:58:50,160
answered that will make science lean in

4311
02:58:54,630 --> 02:58:52,080
a bit we do a little bit more they lean

4312
02:58:56,550 --> 02:58:54,640
in more we get funding and that is a

4313
02:58:57,830 --> 02:58:56,560
potential way

4314
02:59:00,230 --> 02:58:57,840
to

4315
02:59:02,309 --> 02:59:00,240
demonstrate the objective reality of

4316
02:59:04,550 --> 02:59:02,319
these experiences which many of us feel

4317
02:59:07,030 --> 02:59:04,560
are real the first two

4318
02:59:08,230 --> 02:59:07,040
people that you've got to get to smoke

4319
02:59:10,389 --> 02:59:08,240
dmt

4320
02:59:12,790 --> 02:59:10,399
would be richard dawkins

4321
02:59:16,070 --> 02:59:12,800
and neil degrasse tyson

4322
02:59:18,550 --> 02:59:16,080
would it be enough for them to go all

4323
02:59:20,469 --> 02:59:18,560
right there's something else here

4324
02:59:22,469 --> 02:59:20,479
yeah and you know michael shermer and

4325
02:59:24,469 --> 02:59:22,479
seth shostak are also

4326
02:59:26,550 --> 02:59:24,479
open-minded scientists that have no

4327
02:59:28,950 --> 02:59:26,560
horse in the race that if they see

4328
02:59:30,790 --> 02:59:28,960
compelling evidence they'll say yes okay

4329
02:59:32,070 --> 02:59:30,800
i find that convincing

4330
02:59:33,429 --> 02:59:32,080
i was on a cruise ship with neil

4331
02:59:36,070 --> 02:59:33,439
degrasse tyson when i was a kid with

4332
02:59:37,990 --> 02:59:36,080
neil armstrong so maybe i can convince

4333
02:59:39,670 --> 02:59:38,000
him he knows my brother but those are

4334
02:59:41,030 --> 02:59:39,680
the types of people that if we go to

4335
02:59:43,110 --> 02:59:41,040
them and say

4336
02:59:46,150 --> 02:59:43,120
we want to do something in a scientific

4337
02:59:47,990 --> 02:59:46,160
fashion will you help me sort of design

4338
02:59:49,990 --> 02:59:48,000
what that is without lending your name

4339
02:59:51,990 --> 02:59:50,000
to it then if i get some hits some

4340
02:59:53,990 --> 02:59:52,000
interesting results will you lean in a

4341
02:59:56,870 --> 02:59:54,000
bit more and those are the type of

4342
02:59:59,429 --> 02:59:56,880
people who are skeptics but open-minded

4343
03:00:01,349 --> 02:59:59,439
and if you get them to say yes that's

4344
03:00:04,230 --> 03:00:01,359
interesting now you start getting

4345
03:00:07,269 --> 03:00:04,240
attention in a way very different from

4346
03:00:09,830 --> 03:00:07,279
the validity to somebody subjectively

4347
03:00:13,670 --> 03:00:09,840
and an overall scientific objective

4348
03:00:15,429 --> 03:00:13,680
sense yeah what uh we've got 45 seconds

4349
03:00:18,950 --> 03:00:15,439
on a scale of one to ten what are the

4350
03:00:21,510 --> 03:00:18,960
odds of pulling that off with with the

4351
03:00:23,349 --> 03:00:21,520
the skeptical side of the fence i mean

4352
03:00:25,910 --> 03:00:23,359
actually getting

4353
03:00:28,309 --> 03:00:25,920
you know even if it is baby steps to

4354
03:00:29,910 --> 03:00:28,319
pull that off neil degrasse tyson is

4355
03:00:32,309 --> 03:00:29,920
that a one or a 10.

4356
03:00:35,349 --> 03:00:32,319
the odds are greater than of me ever

4357
03:00:37,590 --> 03:00:35,359
selling any of my ufo bitcoin would you

4358
03:00:40,070 --> 03:00:37,600
well so you wouldn't give up bitcoin to

4359
03:00:41,110 --> 03:00:40,080
be abducted really

4360
03:00:42,070 --> 03:00:41,120
correct

4361
03:00:44,469 --> 03:00:42,080
really

4362
03:00:46,710 --> 03:00:44,479
yeah e.t lantern says you can come with

4363
03:00:48,389 --> 03:00:46,720
us but i need two bitcoin you're you're

4364
03:00:49,990 --> 03:00:48,399
not taking the trip clearly i would

4365
03:00:52,630 --> 03:00:50,000
because i would just buy the bitcoin

4366
03:00:53,910 --> 03:00:52,640
back right afterwards but in general

4367
03:00:55,990 --> 03:00:53,920
you're not going to pry the bitcoin on

4368
03:00:58,070 --> 03:00:56,000
my hands the odds i know we got maybe 10

4369
03:00:59,670 --> 03:00:58,080
seconds the odds of actually proving

4370
03:01:02,150 --> 03:00:59,680
this i don't know

4371
03:01:04,070 --> 03:01:02,160
but i also want to sort of permeate in

4372
03:01:06,950 --> 03:01:04,080
the experience your community this

4373
03:01:09,030 --> 03:01:06,960
notion of hey here's a way that we can

4374
03:01:11,990 --> 03:01:09,040
bring science into this and that may

4375
03:01:15,110 --> 03:01:12,000
germinate over time you're the best paul

4376
03:01:17,030 --> 03:01:15,120
heineck what just what a great show and

4377
03:01:19,190 --> 03:01:17,040
uh i've got to get you out to the house

4378
03:01:21,830 --> 03:01:19,200
and we got to hang out all right

4379
03:01:24,230 --> 03:01:21,840
okay all right is that a deal i'm free

4380
03:01:25,670 --> 03:01:24,240
that night i'll talk to you paul heineck

4381
03:01:27,110 --> 03:01:25,680
thank you so much paul and you're going

4382
03:01:29,349 --> 03:01:27,120
to be speaking

4383
03:01:31,510 --> 03:01:29,359
uh that's a bob brown event right ufo

4384
03:01:32,309 --> 03:01:31,520
mega account up in uh utah

4385
03:01:35,750 --> 03:01:32,319
it's the ufo disclosures

4386
03:01:41,429 --> 03:01:39,670
in vernal utah may 27th through 29th

4387
03:01:44,150 --> 03:01:41,439
yeah i think that's a bob brown event

4388
03:01:46,070 --> 03:01:44,160
and uh that looks amazing

4389
03:01:49,269 --> 03:01:46,080
and i'll get the links up to the event

4390
03:01:50,870 --> 03:01:49,279
in social media for everybody paul enjoy

4391
03:01:52,150 --> 03:01:50,880
the rest of your night my friend thank

4392
03:01:54,710 --> 03:01:52,160
you so much

4393
03:01:57,030 --> 03:01:54,720
pleasure jimmy anytime

4394
03:01:58,469 --> 03:01:57,040
paul heineck and i've got the links up

4395
03:02:01,830 --> 03:01:58,479
to uh

4396
03:02:03,990 --> 03:02:01,840
his dad's ufo report it's right there

4397
03:02:05,910 --> 03:02:04,000
and you can get it on amazon fade to

4398
03:02:07,990 --> 03:02:05,920
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4399
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4401
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4402
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4403
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4404
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4405
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4406
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4410
03:02:30,070 --> 03:02:28,720
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4412
03:02:34,389 --> 03:02:32,160
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4413
03:02:35,429 --> 03:02:34,399
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4414
03:02:38,630 --> 03:02:35,439
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4415
03:02:41,590 --> 03:02:38,640
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4416
03:02:45,500 --> 03:02:41,600
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03:03:07,730 --> 03:02:45,510
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